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12-16-2013 11:02 PM
Twyla My Lab went through issues with UTI and bladder stones. Links at the bottom are to the threads I started on that. Good information in them.

First, insist the vet get a sterile sample and do a culture. This will determine which antibiotic is appropriate for the bacteria present. It will also help avoid having to switch her around on multiple types of antibiotic.

With Penny having a UTI, struvite stones are the most common associated with that. Surgery is not required for that, but the correct antibiotic is. That is the one type of stone that is broke up by antibiotics. An ultrasound can confirm if there is a stone.

As for the cost of the meds, research and see if there is an equivalent in human meds and ask for a written prescription. I was lucky that one of the grocery/drug store chains here has a short list of common drugs that they sell for $4 or some are free, huge difference compared to what I would have paid at the vet.

Begin now with the cranberry and acv, much more liquid. You want to increase the urine output to begin flushing her system.

Look at the link Gatorbytes posted, good information there.

The process with Shadow was about 6 weeks by the time the stone was dissolved.


http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...er-stones.html

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...uirements.html
12-16-2013 10:32 PM
Momto2GSDs I am so sorry for you and your Fur Baby!
Maybe a Holistic approach is needed here.
I am not familiar with Canada, but this vet is in Nova Scotia. The Homeotoxicology, Chinese Herbs and Acupuncture is a HUGE plus for treatment!
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12-16-2013 09:21 PM
mandiah89 They said they found crystals and white blood cells? They did not say what kind just gave me this really expensive (the most expensive prescription penny has ever taken) of $71. She then said that she needs to go on a medi-cal stuff. I said I dont want to put her on that because Penny wont eat it anyway, she was on medi-cal back in September when she had that abdomen infection that was pretty bad and she had to spend the night. She used to love going to the vets and ever since then she has been terrified. I have asked them to use a muzzle now when they work with her because she is so scared even though i trust her, she is still an animal in fear in a corner (never a good situation) and for Penny's safeyy and our safety I would rather her wear one now. The vet techs and the two vets I have seen since I started using them were not there, and there was a new vet tech and a new vet today! I was so displeased, especially when the vet tech said she needed her temp. and when she went to go near her Penny was already cowering and in the corner and when she touched her Penny swung her head back, she made no noise and never showed her teeth but right then I asked for a muzzle and the stupid vet tech argued with me that she didnt need one and ask me "are you really sure she needs a muzzle" I said well yes I do and the vet was a moron did not like her, I dont like how she was with Penny and Penny didn't like her either.

I am actually thinking of switching vets to be honest. They are so pushy there and so many people I have talked to said they are the highest priced vet in area! I have this supplement called Cranimals its cranberry extract, and I am gave it to her tonight with her food. I am also doing what MadLab suggested and putting chicken broth in her water. I will keep you informed
12-16-2013 07:31 PM
GatorBytes Struvite crystals do not require a change in diet. Because struvite crystals do not pose a problem unless the dog has a urinary tract infection, there is no required treatment for crystals, including dietary changes. If the dog does have a urinary tract infection, a prescription dog food will not cure it.
If your veterinarian finds struvite crystals in the urine and suggests a diet change, you’d be well advised to find a new vet. You have to wonder how many other things he or she is misinformed about. It isn’t just a case of not keeping up with newer research; this recommendation is just plain wrong.

^^^
Canine Kidney Stone and Bladder Stone Prevention - Whole Dog Journal Article

Did the vet find crystals in urine, or was this a "stones go hand in hand with UTI" diagnosis. If found - What kind?

I second Madlab - Cranberry extract (not Oceanspray juice blend - it's just sugar water).

Organic parsley is a mild diuretic...boil a batch in some water and feed a bit of the water to her here and there. This will help flush kidney's and urinary tract of bacteria.
12-16-2013 03:31 PM
MadLab I'd use cranberry extract and plenty of vit c to clear that up. Plus extra water with meat stock mixed to make the dog drink more.

Also try and get a different source of water for the dog or filter it. You need soft water with no lime or calcium in it.

Apple cider vinegar will also help in the water
12-16-2013 02:40 PM
mandiah89 Does anyone have any experience with Bladder stones, and whether or not they actually clear up with antibiotics?
12-16-2013 02:34 PM
mandiah89
UTI and bladder stones

Just got back from the vets... Penny has a UTI with bladder stones, she is also apparently going through a "false pregnancy". Penny is on yet again another round of antibiotics (she is also suppose to be on a special food that I refused because there is no point in me paying an extra $60 - $80 for food that she will not eat). The vet said she doubts the antibiotics will break up the stones that she will need surgery if they dont clear up after this two week round of antibiotics.

I just had a break down crying, not so much over the fact that she may need surgery, but for the fact that I am helpless to make my girl better, I feel horrible that my dog is constantly falling ill. I am mentally worn down by everything that has happened, and all of her temperament (being really skittish)and training issues and all the money and time I have put in... I know now this will be a very long, painful, expensive road, and by no means will I ever give up on my girl but sometimes I wish this would have been easier.

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