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12-10-2013 11:06 AM
MichaelE Some dogs are harder than others. Especially the smarter ones. You may have to find a round about way of teaching this dog NO, or use another tactic like what motivates him.

It's always a challenge to get inside a dogs head to try and find out what makes an individual dog 'tick'
12-10-2013 10:56 AM
j.a.h. I appreciate everyone's advise! I Thank You!

As I said originally, in over twenty five years of owning and raising dogs, I have never had a problem with teaching the word "no". Typically, aside from their name, "no" is one of the first things they learn. This pup is different - he is a very hard dog!!! He has had his fair share of "time-outs" in his kennel over just "no". I have scoured the Internet looking for similar cases, spent countless hours reading, I have found nothing remotely close.
Before we got him, I spent months reading/preparing as I had not raised a pup in eight years, I felt a refresher was needed. Our other dogs had a two month long refresher-boot-camp in preparation for the new pup. I believe this needs to be taken up a notch or two...I just don't know how.
12-10-2013 09:34 AM
MichaelE Playing with Kong. She comes and drops it in my lap after she has my attention. She will then go sit in the dining room waiting for me to throw it.

If I ignore her and don't throw it, she will either sit there and wait awhile to see if i change my mind, or go do something else.

12-10-2013 09:28 AM
Sri Oh How Cute! jk.

We put the toy away when ours bothered us to play, and the behaviour is much better. Not completely gone(I actually like it because he wedges the toy and part of his head between my feet or legs and holds on to it at the same time ) but he does it a lot less and also stops when we tell him.
12-10-2013 07:17 AM
Loneforce
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Originally Posted by j.a.h. View Post
The can plan is a good idea! We will end up with cans in every room.

I realize he will grow out of some of this goofy stuff (then I will miss it). It would however, be quite lovely if he could grow into "no".
You actually would only need 1 can. But after sleeping on this and thinking more. I stick with my second comment of put toys away and play on your terms not his. I am actually sorry I suggested the can thing. I have seen it work before on a crazy Lab, but all dogs are different....again I am sorry for the bad advice. I was just trying to add suggestions to help. I do not want make it worse. You will figure this out.
12-10-2013 06:04 AM
Sp00ks I have nothing really constructive to add here. Mr. Winners seems to have it nailed down.

I think he is likely very intelligent and bored. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is nothing worse than a bored German Shepherd. When ours got bored she would act out like this. Usually by taking the big tug rope, the one with the knots in it and come whack me in the legs with it. Step in the water bowl, drop toys in the water bowl, Butt bump my office chair among other things.

Usually a good game of tug or some Frisbee time outside would cure this for her. She did this until the day she passed. I always thought eventually she would calm. Nope, she had two speeds, wide open or asleep (until you flinched then she was zero to 100 in half a second. ) Intelligent and High drive.
12-10-2013 02:34 AM
David Winners Dogs aren't born understanding the word no. Some dogs pick it up. Some have to be taught. The way you do this is saying no before giving a punishment. You do it enough and it equals a correction. This is called a conditioned punisher.

David Winners
12-10-2013 12:41 AM
j.a.h.
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You control the game 100% of the time.

Keep his toys put up. You get the toy, ask him to sit, and then give it to him. As soon as the toy goes into the water bowl, you say nope and take it away. As soon as it touches your lap, the game stops and the toy goes away. If he does the right thing, go play with him and have a big party.

I would have a solid out trained if you don't already, and play plenty games so you reinforce the out to avoid it becoming negative.

David Winners
We try to utilize the "do the right thing and you will be rewarded" method. But, wow...it didn't dawn on me to use it in this scenario. Thank you for your advise on this!

I haven't quite figured out the reason behind some of his criminal activities. He loves ice cubes - the best treat ever! He discovered how to get the cubes on his own. I was in another room and thought I heard the ice dispenser, sure enough he was trying to scarf down his loot. The ice dispenser went into lock mode. I am trying to recall if that is when the tit for tat came into play. Sometimes, well most of the time, it's just easier and quicker to swap whatever he has periodically swiped for ice. So, I guess I'm the one that's trained in this instance.

But, I digress...has anyone ever had the problem I have with "no"?
12-10-2013 12:10 AM
j.a.h. The can plan is a good idea! We will end up with cans in every room.

I realize he will grow out of some of this goofy stuff (then I will miss it). It would however, be quite lovely if he could grow into "no".
12-10-2013 12:01 AM
David Winners Be careful with this. You can create fearful associations with things you don't intend. You may end up with a dog that won't go in the kitchen, or afraid of shoes or something.

I would just hate the kitchen off our put a leash on him.

He's not trying to push your buttons as much as trying to find what works. Just show him what you want and I bet he does it. IME, it's easier to teach a behavior than to stop one. Show him how to be successful and that's what he will do.

David Winners
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