|11-01-2013 10:19 AM|
I'm getting my first GSD next year, but I do compete in agility with my little itty bitty tri-dog.
There's a few GSDs that compete in my area (PA), in CPE. They are all beating BCs normally, as well as the field/performance Goldens.
If I were to get a GSD for agility purposes (don't compete in flyball - not yet anyway), I would look for smaller, lighter boned dogs. Look at performance bred Border Collies, how they have a "whippet" like bone. It's safer on their joints.
If you do go the Border Collie route for agility, feel free to PM me. I know breeders all over the country producing top dogs that aren't overbreeding like most of the big name breeders.
However, if you think that just because you get a BC you're going to get a winning dog, it's not going to happen. They need as much training as any other breed would!
And if you think the GSD is the breed for you, get one. I'd rather be happy with the dog I purchased than regret it in a few years..
|10-31-2013 09:06 PM|
|10-31-2013 02:33 PM|
|Liesje||I agree completely. The GSD is a jack of all trades but is probably never going to be top dog (consistently) at sports like agility or flyball. Doesn't mean you can't DO those sports or even get higher titles but if you want to be winning nationals in the fastest divisions or whatever, get a breed that can live up to those expectations, from a breeder that breeds for that. I LOVE doing agility and flyball with my GSDs but I'm not naive to think that they are going to compete with the best even if I did have the time and skills as a handler. As much as I love GSDs *and* dog sports, my heart dog is a fuzzy mutt who does nothing, lol.|
|10-31-2013 02:07 PM|
It's true that different organizations have different course styles and spacing, and yep, height divisions do matter, but there's no agility organization I'm aware of where a GSD or a Dobie is going to be a top-level competitive dog, all else being equal (health, training level, handler's skill, etc.). No matter how structurally sound that dog is, or how much heart it's got, it just can't outrun the breeds whose builds favor that sport.
Plus everybody I know who's a hardcore agility nut competes in multiple organizations anyway.
I mean, ultimately I think you should pick the dog you love and can stand to live with, and who can do reasonably well in your sport(s) of choice... but it is a fact that if your absolute number-one priority is winning, then in some sports that is going to limit your breed choice.
|10-31-2013 01:50 PM|
|10-31-2013 11:29 AM|
|Josie/Zeus||Ironically, after doing PSA for a couple of years with my dog, we are attending our first class on agility this weekend. Just for fun, no competitions or anything.|
|10-31-2013 11:26 AM|
A small, fast Mal (or Terv) can be a top-level dog in agility... but if your absolute #1 priority is ruling the course, a BC is still the "safest" choice.
|10-31-2013 10:54 AM|
is gsd right dog for agility tho? just curious mine is too bulky legs are too short body is too big, she smashes into things so much. I know a lot of gsd excell in agility tho. Oh nm gsd is one of the top.
I always thought the dobies would be one of the best agility breeds. Or even mals?
|10-29-2013 09:53 PM|
Since the jump height for each team of 4 dogs is determined by the shortest on the team, many larger dogs do actually run over lower jumps since most clubs have several "height" dogs, but that's definitely not always the case. In the Touch N Go record setting heat from 10/26/13 that Jean posted a link to, they're racing over 10" jumps in U-FLI, with dogs that are all similar in size.
Our club does NAFA tournaments more often than U-FLI, and we have three 7" height dogs and one 10" height dog, but not all clubs do, and I've seen teams racing over 14" jumps before.
|10-29-2013 09:18 PM|
|onyx'girl||I personally would not get a GSD pup to train in flyball. They structurally are not cut out for the repetition and their body length alone is not designed for it. JMO...can they do it? Yes, but is it good for the structure?|
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