|10-27-2013 03:45 PM|
if the anal gland is not as full, that could be why the 'hole' may be healing..
When I had my dogs done, it was years and years ago, so I have no idea what the cost would be..The one I did, had fistula's as well, so the fistula tracks were removed as well..YEARS ago, I believe it was around 800 and that was done by a board certified surgeon.
IF you end up with removing glands, I would only use a board certified surgeon who is savvy in removing glands,,mine never had incontinent issues , and I have quite a few friends who's dogs were removed and no issues either..if they are a good surgeon, they most likely will tell you that the dog 'could' have incontinent issues, just to be on the safe side, but again, if a good surgeon, there won't be issues.
I would put desitin IN and around the hole to help healing.
|10-27-2013 02:29 PM|
Thanks for the information RiotGirl and Jakoda. Now i am worried. Hopefully on tomorrow, they will look more into it.
RiotGirl, i almost feel like sharing your post with my Vet!
It really looks to me like it would be perianal fistula Jakoda, it doesn't look like a wound that she would make herself.. So that concerns me. Sorry i cannot find my camera and my cellphone wont do any justice! (its old and bad pixels)
I told a coworker about this, and she also suggested to remove the anal glands, she said she had to do it with her dog. So i am thinking, like you said, if this keeps happening i will go this route. Is it expensive? And i heard if it goes wrong they may not be able to control their bowel movements? Which would be awful
The whole looks like its healing and its less red around it. And she seems to be a bit less bothered with the medication. Hopefully tomorrow when she is under they can do a better look and maybe another vet can also look at her.
|10-25-2013 09:13 AM|
I agree with Riotgirl..
I've had two gsd's with PF's, BOTH resulting from anal gland issues..You should never have to express a dogs anal glands in it's lifetime, once you start having issues, well they can be ongoing.
The PF's don't 'have' to go anywhere, the reason for your girls pf, could be a result of that over filled anal gland , the 'stuff' has to go somewhere, and the 'hole' could have been an outlet starting to release that 'stuff'..
I don't want to scare you, but I would keep a real close eye on that 'hole',,and I'd be packing it with something, like Desitin,,(done that, works well)...
If the anal gland issue persists, frankly I"d remove them..
Can you get a picture of it?? Know it's gross sounding, but a picture would help me better tell 'what' it might be
You can also check this out
|10-25-2013 02:35 AM|
I'm trying not to overstep your vet so I'm going to attempt to use my words wisely
Perianal fistulas are often caused by anal gland issues (impactions/abscesses). GSDs commonly have problems with perianal fistulas.
Your vet said one sac was twice the size and full. Anal sacs should never actually be full if they are functioning properly. Dogs express them when they defecate. So the fact that it was abnormally large signifies a problem.
Your vet said they couldn't feel a hole leading to the hole made. I'm sorry but I can't think of a better way to say this other than that's a ridiculous statement. The "hole" or pathway can be the size of a pore. All it is is a pathway for fluid which then builds up under the skin and then ruptures creating that outer hole.
Pets will not always experience constipation or diarrhea prior. (There are genetic factors as well)
Pets will not always have a fever. (The body rid itself of the infection when it ruptured)
The good news is your dog was put on pain meds and antibiotics. The cure all combo
I would HIGHLY suggest asking the vet to teach you how to check anal glands and check them regularly. You don't necessarily have to express them, just check them. That way you can make absolutely certain that this isn't the problem.
- Basically if the anus was a clock you are looking for 2 pea-sized (larger than that is "abnormal") bumps about a finger tip inside the anus at 7 & 5 o'clock.
If your dog has soft stools, like many GSDs do, that could be a reason why the anal glands aren't expressing during defecation. A dietary change could help.
Sorry if I offend anyone. Just think something may be being overlooked. Good luck!
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|10-24-2013 02:51 PM|
Update! Bad, bad and a good.
Thanks for the replies guys, i looked it up right before i went to the vet after work. And it did sound a lot like that. So i did bring it up at the vet.
She said that the right anal sac was full of clear liquid and was about twice the size it should be.. Poor kiddo.. She was able to release most of all the juices from both sides. And do a 360 with her fingers, and also checked to see if it perhaps was a perianal fistula, and she said it did not appear to be so, and that usually this is diarrhea or constipation prior to a fistula and that there is no hole to leading to the hole made. She said that Zelda probably was trying to release her anal glands and was going as far as to make an open wound. She also had normal temperature which was another sign its probably not perianal fistula i guess.
So she is on metcam and metronidazole for 10 days.
I am supposed to set up an appointment in 5-7 days, so that the meds can kick in and they will sedate her to release the rest and she said we might as well do the x-rays than.
When she was feeling inside of her, she did notice the hip pop, she said that could very well be the HD. *sigh* Although im not surprised, was hoping it was pano..
So i am to make an appointment, and go from there. Poor Z! Always something with this girl. Thankfully it wasn't perianal fistula though!
The good thing, was she did not wear the a muzzle the whole time, and she did bark and be miss crazy head for a bit, as well as tale sucked and freak out if anyone looked at her. She got better at the end, and everyone said she did good- and think i worry too much, i just am a big fan of being safe than sorry!
But i am very proud of her for this.
Thanks guys for the suggestions!
|10-24-2013 09:21 AM|
|10-24-2013 08:46 AM|
|JakodaCD OA||is it near her anus? if it's a hole near her anus, it could be a fistula|
|10-23-2013 11:09 PM|
|Mary Beth||It does sound to me that is just a nasty hot spot. Poor Zelda|
|10-23-2013 09:15 PM|
Laceration, maybe hot spot or from hot spot? Never seen this before.
I've seen some pretty bad hot spots. On a goldens neck, so bad: full of puss, red, hurting, itchy horrible.
Or my sisters dog, near her anus, she got lots of hot spots up her tail. Shaved and gen one worked for both..
I noticed the past maybe few days, Zelda licking herself. I checked it out to see if there were bumps or anything from her food allergies.. Maybe i thought it could be anal gland problems like being swollen- like what our little beagle gets sometimes..
When i came home from work today, i checked again. This time i found a hole the size of a penny. It was red around it and for inches up to her tail.
We shaved the area, cleaned it, and i have her some benedryl and made an appointment tomorrow at the vets after work in the afternoon- she is also wearing an e-collar, poor girl it feels so weird now she hates the feeling!
I want to say it maybe a hot spot and she has all day to lick it and she opened it up? Still seems weird to me, bot fly or something? (EW! I recently had to help take i believe it was 18 maggots from a laceration in a kittens leg and than the other kitten it was on its anus.. quite clear the perfect size for maggots to go in and out and we took what we could.. the one with the leg laceration lived, the other did not)
All i can picture now.. is maggots crawling out of her laceration. Its quite clean, and also doesn't look very deep- so i am really hoping its not that and perhaps something that i can treat well. And i have the appointment for tomorrow.
I just am wondering if this sounds like anything you guys have ever heard of?