|11-29-2013 11:52 AM|
Another Internet Company
Service Dog Registry
A trained service dog, that is clearly identified by his vest and his owner's service dog identification, is by law allowed everywhere his owner goes.
Incorrect #1. Per the DOJ, Service Dogs are not required to wear any special equipment including a harness or vest.
Incorrect #2. Per the DOJ, the handler of a Service Dog does not have to carry any type of ID for his dog. There is no "official" ID for Service Dogs. Service Dogs are not required to have any type of ID.
Incorrrect #3. Per the DOJ and other Regulatory Agencies, a Service Dog is not allowed "everywhere" that his owner goes - there are exceptions.
One sentence = 3 errors.
Service Dog Registry
|11-22-2013 02:45 AM|
I had put Register in quotation marks in the title to bring attention to that word.
I'm sorry if that lead to any confusion but even with confusion and trying to answer and straighten it out, I still consider it a valuable educational thread for everyone. Hope we all continue learning and passing on information.
As to "Registering" a SD it is not required by Federal Law. There are no Dept. of Justice approved or recognized registering agencies.
There are a lot of scams out there on the Internet that claim to register SDs. That is why I mentioned that someone sent in their application and enclosed a picture which clearly showed a horse and not a dog. Where it ask for breed she listed her horse's breed. It was registered in that registry as a Service Dog. The link to the page showing the info and registration # was there for any doubters to see.
In the majority of the news videos now being shown where the police have to be called in or the handler goes to the news media, the handler claims to have shown their dog's registration and considers the matter closed. I'm going to say that just about all that *I* personally have seen show patches and ID paperwork from one of these Internet sites.
The majority of the handler's that I know, speak to, have contact with via the Internet, know patches, fancy IDs, and documents from a registering business is not the best way to deal with a situation. They gather info such as manager's name on duty, who they spoke with, the date and time and then go home and contact the store's local management or even the corporate office. They deal with problems in what I consider a businesslike manner.
It irritates many of us that so many of these on-line businesses use red/white/blue coloring, some with a U.S. flag or the eagle (or both) and even us U.S. as part of their business name. It tends to make people (in my opinion) who are uneducated on the subject think these are authorized by the U.S. Government.
The above remarks are my own opinions and are to considered in that manner.
|11-21-2013 12:55 PM|
Okay i guess we are talking about something different. I didnt know there were other ways to register a SD.
When we inquired this is what we were told, so she did it. I still have a feeling I was reverse discrimated against..lol. Because since I picked up the application and didnt look handicapped they said "and you need a drs note" . Lol.
I really do feel sorry for all the people now, that are being told by animal control to register their SD they need their dog to be professionally trained. That's so expensive and if they are anything like my friend on SSI, they can't afford that.
|11-20-2013 10:01 PM|
Msmaria, what is being discussed in this thread is apple to oranges.
The process that you have posted is done for a free county dog tag (offered to a person using a SD).
For any handler living in LA County to go into a store with their SD they do not need this free tag.
For any handler living in LA County to go into a restaurant with their SD they do not need this free tag.
For any handler living in LA County to board an airplane with their SD they do not need this free tag.
For any handler living in LA County to take their dog with them during an emergency or to evacuate with their dog listed as a SD during a disaster they do not need this free tag.
This is not registering a dog with any agency or organization so that the handler can use their dog as a service dog. It is only submitting paperwork and agreeing to vest their dog in public in order to save the fee of a county tag.
When I asked for clarification and verification on what you had posted I had asked it on your own statements and your answering response was "yes" to the following (underlining and bolding have been done to highlight what I was asking you to clarify):
I am confused in what you are saying. Please some clarification to make sure that I am understanding you before I reply.
Are you saying that in Los Angeles to claim a dog as a SD you need to:
1) Get a note from your doctor
2) Complete a SD application at your local animal control office
3) Get a special tag from animal control
4) Purchase a vest for the dog
Also for housing (in LA?) or taking a SD in cabin on a flight (I guess from LA also):
1) You need to get a note from your doctor
2) Your SD needs a special dog license
3) Your SD needs a SD tag
Again, are you saying that all these things need to be done for a Service Dog?
I came back with Federal Common (passed by Congress and signed by the President) and Regulatory Law (passed by the regulating Federal Agencies the Dept. of Justice and the Dept. of Tranportation) as to why these things were not needed to claim a dog as a SD anywhere in the U.S. I did miss adding the Dept. of Housing (HUD) on housing issues in my previous posts in answer back to your post.
I could have come back and just posted the following:
"Your post is not completely correct" but that would not have really served any purpose other than to add to my post count.
And as far as "And I wouldn't try to give people the wrong advice, that's why I can only speak about LA County where I live and went through the process."
You are not giving information on what someone living in LA County needs to do to use a dog as a Service Dog but on how those with Service Dogs can save money on tags under the county ordinance requiring all dog owners to have county tags on any dog they own.
LA County Animal Services ie Animal Licensing and Control is not registering dogs per se as Service Dogs but registering Service Dogs to put on the optional free tag list.
|11-20-2013 09:35 PM|
Why does anyone even need to register their dog as a service dog in LA? It is not about the being a service dog but rather just their process for registering any dog. When I was traveling with my dog as a service dog I made frequent trips to LA, and flew in and out of LAX many times. I was never required to have a doctors note, any tag, nothing. Nor could they have enforced this since I didn't actually live in LA. So the reason LA can make such a policy is because all dogs have to be registered that live there and you can not legally make someone pay a fee to the town for what is considered medical equipment. Hence they made this service dog tag. That tag though has no bearing on any establishment telling you if your dog is or is not a service dog. It is not a service dog certification or anything.
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|11-20-2013 08:41 PM|
Just got off the phone with animal licensing and control. I asked them what do I need to register my dog as a Service Dog in Los Angeles County ( because obviously this post is about how easy to register dog as SD) .
This is what I was told, so if its wrong let me know.
Application Affidavit signed by notary.
Yes they can ask for dr letter, if the licensing agency chooses to. Does not need to state your disability.
Rabies vaccination , proof
Dog needs to be trained by a professional trainer, cannot be owner trained. What? I told her they didnt ask for that before, she said there has been changes.
|11-20-2013 07:26 PM|
Okay so without posting regulations and jaba jaba. What exactly is wrong with my info?
|11-20-2013 07:24 PM|
Okay i understand what your saying, and obviously this subject is very important to you. And I wouldn't try to give people the wrong advice, that's why I can only speak about LA County where I live and went through the process.
So , let me ask you. Have you gone through the process of registering a SD dog with Los Angeles animal control? Because if you have and you did not need a drs letter and to complete an application, then something is wrong with how we we treated and I would definitely go back there to let them know. The only thing you can argue is that the regulation I posted was not federal, and I didnt say it was. Everywhere in my posts I said Los Angeles County. I even noted Orange County has there own process.
|11-20-2013 07:03 PM|
|11-20-2013 06:57 PM|
I did not want any reader in a future time to be confused on points mentioned and to go away with incorrect or incomplete information. Education as an advocate for Assistance Dogs is one thing that I do on almost a daily basis.
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