|10-02-2013 05:35 PM|
|BobCl||Considered adopting? Our three year old is a Schutzhund washout with no HD or ED on either side of her pedigree. But genetics are merely predictive instead of certainties, or she would have titled and been sold as a breeder instead of failing aggression testing (as in not aggressive enough) and being put up for adoption as a pet.|
|10-02-2013 04:59 PM|
Andaka (below) has it right. The initial cost of a dog is nothing compared to what you'll spend through its life on food, gear, classes, medical care, etc.
I chose to go to a working kennel for my current boy, Ruen, (thanks to recommendations from folks on this website last year!) and paid substantially more than I had for my GSDs in the past-- and he'd be considered "only a pet" (though I think of him as a partner on the ranch).
But Ruen still cost LESS than all the tests, x-rays, medication and consulting for Roman's final 2 month's of life.
|10-02-2013 02:46 PM|
|Andaka||Don't forget it costs just as much to raise a pet puppy as it does to raise a show or working puppy from the same litter. Their food is the same, as are their shots and wormings.|
|10-02-2013 02:03 PM|
Thanks . I do love a dark dog. Russell's parents are both dark faced black and tans. Nice dark pigment.
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|10-02-2013 10:07 AM|
|Daisy&Lucky's Mom||Thanks DogFaeries. Thats helpful. BTW Russel's siblings and he are all beautiful. Love the dark masks.|
|10-02-2013 12:02 AM|
Pet puppies from the same breeders are usually $700 - $1000. And by "pet" puppies, I mean puppies that the breeder doesn't consider a show prospect (for whatever reason). Though sometimes puppies that COULD be shown are sold as pets, with limited registration.
Russell's litter was very uniform, and any one of them could be shown at this point. Three were sold as pets with limited registration (and are all spayed). One of them is learning to track (with a goal of SAR), and she is a gorgeous girl with great movement. Another is living on a dairy goat farm. One is a family dog. Russell and his sister Birdie were kept to show.
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|10-01-2013 09:25 PM|
Personally - I think it is a mistake for any one to use the word "guarantee" regarding any puppy....because then people make this argument that you want to make....knowing full well that there are no real guarantees....only warranties.
Cancer ? You want a guarantee (refund) if a dog gets CANCER???? No I don't think so....I lost a dog with other issues who was PTS when he showed signs of hemangiosarcoma - which others in his mother's family also passed of....no way would I ever consider asking for a refund on a dog who dies of cancer - no matter what the age....these are living creatures and no one can absolutely guarantee health...to argue that they MUST do so and that they should be able to predict perfect health is not realistic.
|10-01-2013 08:30 PM|
I have been watching a particular breeder and the kennel will have on its website "Health is guaranteed," then when you read the actual sales contract it is actually limited to bone issues. When a prospective customer sees "Health is guaranteed," what do you think the interpretation means to the customer? I find this misleading.
Here is the point I am trying to make. If you are willing to spend, say $3,000-$5,000, on a dog believing they are stacking the odds in their favor with a reputable breeder and the breeder says health is guaranteed on the website, and the dog comes down with CANCER OR LONG TERM DISEASE. Don't you think the owner is entitled to some sort of compensation to be put towards the future vet bills? I think the typical companion dog owner would think so.
|10-01-2013 03:04 PM|
sounds like great price i' hope to have some pups with tom z lines
|10-01-2013 02:20 PM|
I don't think so....I infer from her comments she wants an actual guarantee (as in I guarantee the sun will set tonight and rise in the morning) of good health....and no one can do that - they can warranty but that is not what she wants...the inferred comments are that the breeder should return all monies if the dog has any issue because they guaranteed the dog was healthy....
I just sold two pups which were progeny of a female I bred, raised and sold as an adult....I knew her mother, her siblings, her 3/4 siblings, her siblings progeny - and I KNEW what to expect from these pups temperament wise. I trusted their breeder to be honest in his assessment of the pups.....I picked up the pups and kept one of them a couple of days before her new owner got her. The other went home with the new owner who went with me to pick them up. So if you want to know what to expect - you find a breeder who has that kind of familial knowledge - not one who just imports titled dogs, breeds them every heat, then gets rid and them and who has constant turnover of breeding stock - one who can look at the pedigrees and tell you who is related to who, what has worked well within those lines. Or someone who knows the family and lines well enough to recommend a breeder....look carefully at the website, look at the databases for pedigrees - see what the breeders have produced and how their various litters are related....it is not rocket scientist to tell who is breeding for a business and who has a program that is discernible...
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