|10-28-2013 11:51 AM|
|ofl52||No, the command that worked...."Heal" or do you spell it "heel"...lol....anyway-he now gives the ball to me without issue-It was a short term problem I guess-He will still try to get me to chase him-but once I give the heal/heel command-he will come to me and give the ball on command without a chase/issue.|
|10-28-2013 02:04 AM|
|10-27-2013 10:40 PM|
Imo, puting the dog on a check cord works better than puting the ball on a cord. If the dog pulls on the ball while you have a rope on the ball you are now playing tug... Two games, which also imo, that shouldn't be mixed. Having the dog on the cord assures them that their 'job' is to return the object back to the handler, not just to catch a fleeing foe. If they get off track use the check cord to remind them where they are taking that object.
If I have to retrieve my own object, (get the ball from them, or a failed retrieve) the ball goes away. I never let them get away with thinking they can simply not return the object.
Oliver Kahn 8/3/13
|10-27-2013 10:26 PM|
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|10-02-2013 12:12 PM|
The 2 ball method didn't work in my case, nor did a high value treat more than one time-it did work once-I did find a way to fix it.....the answer was right in front of me and why it didn't occur to me to try it....well....I guess over thinking the issue might have been part of the problem....
Anybody interested in knowing what worked......Trainers will know I am sure......One simple everyday command we use in training......I laughed at myself on how simple the solution was....laffs....
|10-02-2013 11:35 AM|
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The above has worked well for me. It's ALL a game to them. Cruz is nor ever has been fetch crazy. But all I do is turn and take a step and he shoves the ball between my legs from the backside. I grab the ball and command to release. Not all the time. But it seems they can't stand it if it seems your not interested.
|10-02-2013 11:01 AM|
|ofl52||Didn't know if anyone is interested or not...but I figured out or solved the problem....As simple as one word used with nearly every training method.......|
|09-29-2013 01:38 PM|
Madlab-did that too...with two squeaky balls...... I took the squeaky stem out and tried that too-I tried food reward for exchange...that worked once-but never again.
Due to my disability I can't run-I can take a few fast steps and to most people that wouldn't be considered fast...lol....
When I do get lucky and get the ball-I do throw it-he gets it and brings it to me-but will stay out of my reach and refuse to release/drop it on command-It is only with the Kong ball outside the house/yard-In the house he will release/drop on command-he will release/drop the tennis ball, flying disc, stick...etc.....without issue-
I know he is wanting to play and to get me to chase him-I just can't do that and plus.....he needs to mind me-when I tell him to give me something I expect for him to obey-I can't even get him to sit on command when he has this ball-let alone give it to me.
He plays with this ball different than with any of the other toys too-It is almost like he is playing fetch with himself-He uses his feet and swats it like a cat-he will bounce it and toss it in the air to catch...maybe he imprinted on the cats too much....lol......he only plays like this with the kong.....Its odd.....
|09-29-2013 12:36 PM|
Problem is he's too smart lol
Trick is to have 2 of the same toy. When he has one you wave the other around and offer him that one. Generally a dog will find something he doesn't have better than the one he has.
Another way is run away from him and he will follow you.
He does this because it is more rewarding to him to bite his ball and tease you than it is to give it too you. When a dog does give you the ball, you need to throw it for him again so he realizes the fun starts again, or reward him in some way. A ball on a string can be good as the tug is a reward.
Also you need to bring in other skills like throw the ball, get him to wait, and then go get it. Other wise it gets boring and he will just keep the ball and tease you.
|09-29-2013 11:55 AM|
Thank you for the ideas....I didn't know there was a kong on a rope...lol....that might work and then I thought of having him on a line and make short tosses or even let him drag the line so I could step on it to get the ball back....
Odd how he started doing this-wish I could figure that out...lol....he is such a smart dog and it seems odd that this issue is only with the squishy/squeaky balls with or without the squeaker....
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