|09-22-2013 02:25 AM|
|ODINsFREKI||Hawks, eagles and owls up here on the mountain. Just keep an eye on the puppy. Keeping the puppy on a leash would only make things worse. It would keep the prey in one specific area. If you see a bird of prey stalking your puppy or dog, go out and play with the dog and stare at the bird. This most often works, if not, break out the bear swatter and spray away.|
|09-20-2013 11:58 AM|
Just wanted to show you this, black snakes can take a kitten also but I have never heard of it happening, I think they can sense what is their predators offspring and tend to avoid.
Just like they never take fox cubs, or weasels, minks etc.. They seem to have limits on certain things they will go for and avoid. A 3 6 or 7 pound black snake wont eat something more than 1-2 pounds.
|09-20-2013 11:37 AM|
also they will go for a baby duck young rabbit or chicken but they would not go for a baby kitten with its mother right there, or much worse a gsd. Snakes are not smart but they are not suicidal. Dogs are predators to them just like cats and they will avoid it. I am shocked it actually got in your yard. They only get in mine when the dog or cats are not around because of the birds.
|09-19-2013 03:39 PM|
hawk did not try to kill ur heeler it was a nest protection defense they can get so brave they become suicidal here let me show you guys, NOT EVERY ANIMAL they attack is prey i will show you
HEre you see a hawk land and attack an eagle, the eagle is not prey, the hawk is very angry the eagle flew by its territory, so mad that the hawk commit suicide they say it was after the chicks no hawk is going to dare touch an eagles chick while the eagle is there, the hawk was furious for other reasons.
3/24/2013 Red Tailed Hawk tries to attack nest, gets killed by parent. , DFEagleCam Captured on Ustreamuke Farms Eagle Camera Wild Animals
HEre you will see eagles attacking brown bears we know they do not hunt brown bears they attack them out of many reasons, prey they dont like to compete, nesting, they dont want a bear near their nest sites, etc..
Or territory these goldens may just not like the bear around where they are hunting
Here an owl attacks a pack of wolves and pulls chunks of fur out them this owl does have a nest but she will go very far from her nest and attack animals that are far far away, shes not going to take a risk
Grey wolf video - Canis lupus - ar11 - ARKive
They don't wanna prey they wanna drive away
NOT always the case a eagle can or owl once in a blue moon may kill a cat or dog (cats are very hard to kill because birds of prey die 24 hours after a cat kill due to infection from bites or claw marks ) But small dogs can be killed and in case of golden eagle desperation a haunting dog may be killed sometimes.
the hawks we see the small red tails, goshawks, barred owls amost never attack dogs or cats but might once in a blue moon the smallest of them all for prey. Attacks are always defense. Cats are predators of nests, dogs are potential hazards and predators also of nesting owls.
Like the other poster said not all of them are like this. Canines like foxes and coyotes are just not liked and will be attacked and hit hard, WOlves bears you name it will be smashed.
While swimming my dog has been attacked in the head by mallard ducks, caspian terns, red wing black birds (yes it was funny) On land shes been attacked by blue jays and even crows have attacked her. She doesnt even attack birds or show interest. Out of no where a bird sometimes will just smack her in the head while out in the woods lol
USUALLY during spring when shes swimming the mallards will land on her head, she just ignores them and keeps swimming. Canada geese also will hiss at her and threaten her with wings. At my parents lake.
Also do you guys see all those crows and sea gulls attacking hawks? word is called mobbing. Sometimes they misjudge and get killed. Sometimes a bigger stronger gull species like a great black backed gull or common raven will kill a smaller hawk or falcon during mobbing.
|09-19-2013 08:40 AM|
Years ago a hawk kept swooping down at my female Blue Heeler. Finally he got too close and my heeler grabbed him, shook him and it was over for him in seconds.
I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own two eyes. I knew she was quick and tenancious, but that hawk never had much chance to realize his mistake
And I have no idea why he was after a 50+ lb dog...
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|09-19-2013 07:33 AM|
actually, a black snake that large can TRY to eat a GSD pup. It's not uncommon for a snake to "bite off more than it can chew" and leave the body behind when it finds it can't swallow it.
We ended up having to kill a 5 1/2' black snake last year once he had decided that eggs were an easier meal than catching rats. Hated to do it, he had lived in the old barn for years without a problem and kept the copperheads away. But it was kill him quickly or put out fake eggs that would kill him slowly.
Anyway, he had also killed a young rooster. Much to big for him to swallow but you could tell that he had tried and then left it.
|09-19-2013 12:58 AM|
I saw a HUGE black snake in my yard, years ago. And, because I don't like spiders and snakes, I did not actually go over and measure how long it was or weigh it. But it was definitely a large black snake. A GSD puppy is born about 12 ounces to 20 ounces. by week three they are about 3-4 pounds. So, you are probably right, the black snake is not a problem at that point.
Perhaps it is like people who fear dogs, GSDs look huge to them. As I was ducking out of the way of a mud wasp today, I thought how ironic it was that I have no fear of a critter that is between 60 and 90 pounds and has pretty formidable teeth, and I am afraid of this miniscule instinct that flies and stings.
That snake was funny though. It was actually moving above the grass, and curved up taller than the grass. It was big. So far the snakes haven't been a problem, probably because it isn't possible, but I still worry about them. I mean I was thinking they eat rats and rabbits. But its mostly rats, mice, chipmunks, etc. Very young puppies are not much bigger than a rabbit.
|09-18-2013 12:42 PM|
|Neko||Wow glad all is ok!|
|09-18-2013 12:23 PM|
|mbussinger166||When my terrier was a puppy I had a similar incident involving a hawk. very scary, I'm glad he's ok. The owl most likely would not have been able to fly away with him, but could have done substantial harm.|
|09-18-2013 11:18 AM|
the snakes with venom can hurt a gsd but none of our non venom snakes other than introduced giants can hurt a gsd pup our largest snake is the indigo snake it lacks the expanding ability of other snakes and feeds on other snakes like full grown rat snakes using its power to just chomp them down alive. If it sees a cat or a puppy it will ignore them. Or just avoid them. Its not into chickens either. King, racers, and indigo all eat copperheads and rattlers.
Owls are scary if they don't like you. I am way more scared of an owl that is mad at me than a pack of coyotes. I just know the coyotes wont do anything. The owl will. I love them tho. They are brave powerful beautiful birds. They usually win every fight they start.
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