|09-10-2013 06:49 AM|
|megg689||Thank you for all the responses. I really appreciate it. I know for sure I would have such a hard time if something ever happened to my daughter and I was the one who fought hard to keep chloe. Not to mention the strain it would place on my marriage I'm sure. I agree my daughter's safety is number one I don't want to do anything to compromise it. We have already started the process of finding a gsd rescue to send our dog to. Both of us feel like that is probably best for chloe and her best chance at a successful new life. We haven't heard back from the rescue we tried to contact. I will look around on here for a list of more rescues in our area. We live in the dfw area in tx. If anyone knows of any where please let me know. Thank you again.|
|09-10-2013 01:17 AM|
|selzer||Some things you cannot take back. I suggest you find a home that has no children for her.|
|09-10-2013 01:10 AM|
But as you said, once he was mobile forget it, she was done with him.
In our case our dog Bridgette bit our son. Not badly but, we didnt manage the separation very well and one day he didnt respect her space and bit his hand. It wasnt very bad at all, hardly any broken skin but once she died (she was 16 and was put down a few months after that) he was petrified of dogs. He would literally climb me to get away from them. It took over a year of being very patient, taking him to petco to meet other dogs (we had only had Bridgette) and work with him over time so that he would feel comfortable with us getting our Lulu.
So I guess my advice to you is this, if you cant keep them completely separate and manage them VERY well at least for a year or so for your dog to get to know and understand your child, then I probably knowing what I have already been through, would rehome the dog to either an older child only home or no kids at all.
|09-10-2013 01:09 AM|
The dog would not be staying in my home with the situation you are describing. The dog is telling you she is not comfortable with the baby walking, loving on her, and acting like a 1 year old child. Your child is going to grow up more every day and push limits with the dog.
Since there is growling already, why are you waiting until something back happens, which undoubtably will in the future. The dog is not happy with a moving squeeling wobbly human , listen to her and be sensible. your husband is thinking about your child and a possibly horrific injury/mauling . Rehome now before the inevitable happens and let the dog have a home without kids.
Think about your baby, not the dog.
|09-10-2013 12:53 AM|
I'm with your husband on this one, and I have been through this. We had a corgi that was very poorly bred, very nervy, and a rescue. We got pregnant unexpectedly and knew we may have a problem with that dog and the baby. She was fine until the baby started walking, then it was the same as you describe, growling if my son came near her, unprovoked, and when we scolded our son she would come running from out of no where to nip him (she actually nipped a friend's toddler). This dog was not clear in the head. Yes, I could have trained her, hired someone (this was before GSDs, SchH TD's etc), kept them separated, etc....She eventually nipped at my son, and that was it. We have a zero tolerance in our house for unprovoked aggression towards children, doesn't matter where it came from...it was completely unprovoked and a result of terrible genetic instability. I rehomed her to family across the country. Paid to have her shipped to them. She's doing great, happy as can be, but cannot be trusted around children.....and that was a corgi....if it had been a large breed like a shepherd, I probably would have put her down. As harsh as that sounds, the safety of children everywhere is priority, and genetics are genetics.
I asked my TD about her after I started training. TD said she would have probably suggested putting her down. The dog had great obedience, but was very very nervy and fear aggressive. I know lots will probably give you a long list of things you could try, and at the minimum I would say get a trainer experienced in fear aggression to assess the dog. I looked at it this way, if my corgi bit my child, left permanent damage, scaring, etc...I would never forgive myself. Also, if I trained, spent the money, environment managed, etc...I would never trust her, would resent her, and the relationship would not be a healthy one. I know a lot of people judge me for rehoming her, but I could care less. My husband has scars on the left side of his face from a terrible GSD bite when he was a boy. From a dog that "never hurt a fly." It's one thing if we are talking about adog, taunted, tortured, or teased by the child, but this seems like what I dealt with, unprovoked, unstable, unclear, responses...as a result from poor genetics....but def get a professional opinion by someone that can witness the dog in person.
|09-10-2013 12:49 AM|
your daughter is 1 yr old. i think teaching a 1 yr old how to behave
around a dog is asking the impossible. my children come before the
dog, hands down.
|09-10-2013 12:37 AM|
I have never been in your situation before. And I feel for you and your husband.
I can only suggest a few things.
First, teach Chloe that it is OK for her to walk away from the baby. I had a friend teach her old cocker to " run ginger run" when their baby got mobile. You never want the dog to feel obligated to interact. It's OK for them to want away. And it should be encouraged. If you force interaction, then you are effectively taking away the dogs ability to choose a safer response.
Second. Make the baby something good. Teach her to feed treats, if possible, she is sooo young. 1yo is pretty young to teach most dog things. They are just not capable of learning stuff like that yet.
Third- human aggression and dog aggression are totally different things. Because she went after a dog before in no way means she will go after your daughter.
Fourth- keep them separate for now. Give the dog a crate, in an area the baby has no access to. Give her a chance to unwind from the family and the stress if the baby.
Fifth- your babies safety comes first. End Game. If the dog, and you, can't find a way to keep the baby safe, the dog should be rehomed. Maybe an unpopular opinion. But could YOU live with yourself if your dog hurt your baby? Could you? No. Toddlers are scary to most dogs. They wobble, the charge forward, hands out, make funny noises, eye level and grip hard and in weird ways. It's a tough human age for the best if dogs. But your babies safety HAS to come first.
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|09-10-2013 12:33 AM|
That's a tough situation. I've never been through it, so can only offer this advice: start *managing* the dog right now. No access to the toddler at all. Crate, tether, separate the two, until someone can help you with more. I doubt you will have to rehome. I've had some tough dogs, but none I have had to rehome. But I don't have a baby at home, either. That's a tough one. But I do think there's a solution
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|09-10-2013 12:25 AM|
NEED HELP! 3yo gsd skiddish aggressive towards 1yo daughter. husband wants to rehome!
Hi so I'm new here. Found this site desperately searching for answers trying to convince my husband not to just give up and rehome our almost 4 yo gsd. Chloe is an amazing dog she is one of 3 in our pack. The other 2 are small breeds.
When we bought her we were told she was a lab. But later found out otherwise. She is the best dog we have ever had. Shes so smart and loyal and obedient for the most part.
We have a 1 yo daughter who has recently started walking and talking and is absolutely in love with her doggies. Especially our gsd chloe. When we brought our daughter home chloe was so protective of our baby. She watched over her and came to get us at the slightest hint that something may be wrong. She truly seemed to love our daughter.
Now that she is mobile she wants absolutely nothing to do with her. She growls at her if she gets within a foot of her and if she touches her. Its a short warning growl and she's never even turned her head towards her to hint at nipping her. We are teaching our daughter about respecting dogs space and to be gentle.
However my husband is worried that she will never adapt to our daughter and eventually snap and bite or attack her. She has attacked our female small breed before so my husband pictures that happening to our daughter. I should add we never leave our daughter alone with any of the dogs. We corrected the situation with the dogs and there haven't been any attacks since.
I feel like this is a new phase and every change we go through with our daughter growing the dogs have to learn and adapt as well. My husband is set on rehoming her. I have about a couple weeks to try and prove that we can make this situation work and all we need is just to work with both our daughter and dog. Any advice on how to help gsd adapt to children and make our family work is greatly appreciated!
I love my gsd and am heart broken at the idea of rehoming her. Especially before even giving her a chance to change by working with her. It just isn't right. Please help. Thanks