|09-19-2013 01:28 PM|
|Sarah~||Yeah, it's definitely not a quick process. Hopefully she can keep calm around him, she says she'll try, I have a feeling big dogs make her a bit nervous anyway. I'm sure the first time we do it and she sees it can be done it will be much easier after that.|
|09-19-2013 12:33 PM|
|Blanketback||That was nice of Ashley to help! But yes, I say that she's causing much of the problem too. I used to have my guests turn with their back to my puppy, and then let him out of his crate, and tell people to totally ignore him. Pretty much the opposite of what she's doing, lol. It takes time, but you're getting there|
|09-19-2013 02:42 AM|
|Sarah~||So our trainer thinks Ashley (roommates gf Eko doesn't like) is making Eko so worked up because when he starts going after her she squeals, turns and covers her face and says "Please don't jump on me!" repeatedly. Not that I'm blaming her she has a right to be afraid, but the trainer thinks if she would be calmer Eko would be calmer. I talked to her and said as long as she knocked before entering I would have Eko on leash and I wouldn't let him jump on her or hurt her. Hopefully that helps her not be so scared and just walk in, ignore Eko and go where she needs to go in the house. Eko has been doing pretty good with training, he has been barking less when people knock, when my roommates just walk in the house he will jump to his feet and bark but he hasn't been charging.|
|09-15-2013 06:58 PM|
Thank you it's going slowly but in the end it will be worth it.
Hoping once we resolve the door issues we can work on his dog aggression as well.
|09-15-2013 03:13 PM|
I'm glad things are getting better for you. I have a busted screen door too, lol, but fortunately it only goes to my enclosed porch. My brother screwed some 'o-rings' into his, and wove thick metal wire through his, to keep his dogs in. If only our dogs would respect the screen, lol!
I think having the trainer over when this girl comes by is an excellent idea. He can see what's going on, and also tell this girl what she's doing to encourage the behavior. It would be good for everyone, I think. Good luck with everything
|09-15-2013 02:31 AM|
I did want to make an update on this, in case anyone was curious.
After throwing a bit of a temper tantrum, my roommates have made more of an effort to keep people from just walking in in addition to me locking the door during the day. I put ANOTHER beware of dog sign right on the door, one of those little 99 cent ones from petsmart. We have had a trainer come over twice, he agrees that Eko needs more structure and leadership from me, and more exercise. I figured that would be part of it, it's been 100+ here lately and I was making a lot of excuses this summer not to work him (and me) too hard... My boyfriend has been helping me do better with that, though, and now we're walking him twice as much, I take him in the morning and my boyfriend in the evening when it's cooler.
We've been keeping him on leash in the house, especially when we know someone is coming over and when they knock I have him sit and stay while my boyfriend answers the door. He still barks when they knock, but he is doing much better in staying and not running over to the person and being all over them like he used to be. He's far from perfect though, we did had an incident yesterday where we had the door open and the screen door closed and my roommate's girlfriend was walking up the steps to the porch. Before I realized she was there Eko was up, barking and charging the screen door, he busted it open and I barely got ahold of him before he got to her. I don't know what he would have done if I hadn't grabbed him, but he definitely did not seem friendly. That was my mistake, I should have been paying more attention and if I wanted just to have the screen door shut he should have been on-leash.
That incident got me thinking, though. This girl has been coming over for about a month and a half, and every time he has been ESPECIALLY aggressive to her. His barking is more vicious, and even if he is in a sit-stay when she knocks and is let in, he barks at her after she's in the house and he has tried to go after her more than once. It takes all my strength to hold him back from her and take him to his cage when he does that, and I'm just wondering what about her sets him off so much. She acts scared around him more than most people, not that I blame her, but even when she first came around she acted as if he would attack her at any moment. I'm thinking about having Mike (the trainer) come over and having her come over at the same time to see what he would say, but I don't know if she would be willing to do that. She's very afraid of Eko now and has been coming over much less. I've told her if she would tell us she's coming I'd put him in his cage before she got there to make her more comfortable, but she still hasn't.
So we are making some progress but still slipping in others, but I understand we can't fix it overnight. I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better just to put him in his cage every time someone knocks now, but 9 times out of 10 he really likes the person coming over and once we get past the excitement of them getting through the door he is a good boy.
|09-03-2013 05:17 PM|
|Liesje||There's not enough info here for me to say whether I think he's being fearful or he's very appropriate or what. But I agree that he's your responsibility and if YOU are concerned he might escalate then you need to make sure he can't behave like this. I don't agree that he's wrong/bad. My GSD acts much the same way. People in the household come in, people he knows he will probably bark when they come up but then see who it is and act happy, people he doesn't know get barked at until I tell him to stop. If I'm expecting someone he doesn't know, I put him up and then if they are a dog person I will get him out later and he's fine because I've already let the person in and he defers to me. This dog has protection training and titles but no bite history outside of the training/sport. He's not a fearful or "reactive" dog or whatever you want to call it. Two days ago he was running around off leash inside and out with two adults and four kids he doesn't know, but he's a stable dog and once he sees they are no threat and that I "approve" their presence, they are his friends. He played tug and fetch with these kids for hours. However I have my own house and only live with my husband so I don't have random people coming and going a lot, barking is not really an issue for me even if my dog will alert to a "stranger" at the door. If I lived with other people my age and they had their friends coming and going, I'd not have a dog like this or I'd make sure he didn't have access to the door unless I was ready to control him. When my sister dogsits for me I often take my GSD with me or board him with another friend because I allow her to have her BF and friends over. I trust my sister but I don't know or trust her friends around my GSD. Easier just to take him out of the picture than risk one of them charging in and acting all stupid. I guess my point is if you can't control your roommates you can at least control the dog's access to the door.|
|09-03-2013 03:57 PM|
|Blanketback||Yeah, I think you're right Jericfos - not to say the this dog will end up PTS for biting everyone, but that it's better to anticipate that someone will eventually get bitten rather than letting these people carry on with their (IMO, very rude and ignorant) behavior. That's why my general way of being is more along the lines of 'forget about the dog, beware of the owner' lol. OP, can you move out? This is a rotten situation for you and your dog if you can't force them to act in a more civilized manner.|
|09-03-2013 01:55 PM|
I'm not sure if the OP is still responding but i would like to add that my GSD did not not growl and bark before attacking, contrary to a couple things i've seen posted here. My dog would growl and bark in general at strangers, but not when he was gonna bite. If my dog was silent around a stranger that stranger was about to get bit. Unfortunately it took us a few bites to learn that and then in the end my dog, who i loved, was put down.
I tell you this just to say please take control of your situation, things can get bad quickly. Your original story sounds like it's leading to some bites, just my opinion.
|09-02-2013 03:54 PM|
Lol, just thinking about the pizza guy seeing Eko merely sitting there, and deciding not to rock the boat. Yup, a GSD on the porch or lazing on the lawn has kept all sorts of people on the sidewalk in my life too. Oh well, usually it was just junk mail or door-to door 'who cares' type of stuff.
I lived like this too. Way back when. But I was always very harsh with the friends and roomies because I had cats that I didn't want having access to the outdoors. So rather than a barking dog, they had a yelling human. Way worse, lol. Effective
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