|08-25-2013 05:17 PM|
My first trainer was demonstrating the ceaser correction on my then 4 month old gsd's hind quarters. My GSD yelped and he was convinced he had HD. I was pretty sure he yelped in fear, because he was doing that at the time.
Anyway, my GSD started having an issue with his front leg. (about 7 mo to 8 months old) To make a long story short, after multiple x-rays and a trip to the ortho vet I was told his hips are fine and he had pano in his front leg.
So, get x-rays done if there is a concern.
|08-25-2013 05:06 PM|
Sounds like a scam to me..."your dog has HD, by the way, I will charge you $50 a month extra for vitamins to help with the HD"...If this trainer is really good, he would tell you to take your dog home and raise him yourself. Then when a year old or older, go for protection training.
Enjoy your puppy, train him in obedience and let him be a puppy. Then check to see if he has the right temperament for that type of training.
|08-25-2013 03:32 PM|
NOBODY can diagnose HD without xrays. I don't care how much a specialist in K-9 training he is, unless he is a vet with an xray machine, he is a con artist. Special food? To do what exactly? Make the HD go away? Not likely. There is no special food to feed a GSD or any dog that will help HD... As long as your dog is being fed a good food, then he is being feed fine. Lots of top brand foods mentioned here on this forum are great for GSD or any dog. HD is not brought on by food, it is mostly genetic.
I have seen dogs that move like a well oiled machine: smooth, beautiful extension, no sloppiness in movement have the WORST hips you could imagine on xray. Then have seen dogs with HORRIBLE movement, sloppy, rough, etc and the xrays show excellent hips. HD can't be diagnosed without xrays. PERIOD>
What makes this "trainer" so sure this 5 month old puppy is dysplastic? What are the signs?
I think you need to take your puppy and have nothing to do with this guy and find another trainer. Most 5 month old puppies are not ready for month long training sessions anyway. A general training class with both of you working together will most likely do exactly what you want.Besides, most dogs even a year old are not ready for protection work, and what is to say this puppies temperament is even a good candidate for protection training. Not every dog is of the right temperament for protection training.
You really need to reconsider this "trainer" expert or not, and give your puppy a chance to be a puppy and enjoy training him yourself at a good class and let him grow up.
|08-25-2013 01:47 PM|
Huge red flag. Pull your dog ASAP and get your money back.
Do NOT trust this man. NO ONE, specialist or otherwise, can diagnose HD without medical information.
You're getting upset about something that is probably just a ploy to get you to pay him extra each month and get nothing in return.
|08-25-2013 11:26 AM|
Sounds to me like this guy is taking advantage of you. Get x-rays done before you start pumping your dog full of unknown vitamins.
No one can diagnose hip dysplasia without x-rays. It doesn't matter how good of a salesman he makes himself out to be.
|08-25-2013 11:16 AM|
Hes gonna spend the first month there..i go for visits whenever i want just to play with him lol.. The next 2 months i will bring him home every weekend ... And i should go like 3 times in weekdays to do the training with the dog..its only basic obedience now ... When he gets 1 year old and older .. I wana train him for gard/attack ... The trainer is a specialist in k9.. Hes got a lot of experience in dogs...thats what he told me abt dust (my gsd) ... Hes gonna charge 50$ more per month for vitamines and glucosamine..well i dont care if hes just saying that to get extra charge .. Actually i wish he is ... Coz i dont wanna see dust in pain or suffering later on ... He told me that he will provide me with all the info i need ... Abt the special food i should get ... And to keep him on diet .. Coz weight and jumps in his condition can harm him .. I dunno ... He sounded pretty sure abt what he was talking about ... He didnt make any x rays .. He just showed me one to explain what is dyplasea... Its sad really specially when every1 in that school was amazed by the caracter and the personality of dust .... (I dont know why i couldnt upload pics here..."this is not a valid image file")
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|08-24-2013 10:08 PM|
If your puppy is limping and in pain, he may have Pano ( Panosteitis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )
It is very common and will go away on its own, but to be able to tell the difference, you will need to get x-rays.
|08-24-2013 08:21 PM|
|mycobraracr||I'm with the others. Only x-rays can tell you if your puppy has HD. At 5 months you can check for HD and ED.|
|08-24-2013 07:45 PM|
Hmm, trainer can't tell about HD without vet doing xrays. Trainer might be saying this to be able to charge for extra services/supplements during boarding.
I am also curious WHY you are sending a 5 month old puppy away for three months of training. What kind of training?
|08-24-2013 06:57 PM|
There are plenty of products that can help minimize the stress HD places on your dog's hip joints. Dasuquin with MSM is an excellent product, and I attended a lecture that recommended using Adequan as a preventative measure up until 14 months. Have the kennel keep him slim and exercised. Stay on low protein food to mitigate his growth and be sure he's getting omega oils and appropriate fatty acids. Do not supplement with calcium and do not allow them to feed a large-breed specific diet without combing through the info carefully to be sure it's appropriate.
Unless your trainer performed x-rays and is a licensed vet or specialist they actually have no grounds to tell you ANYTHING about his hips, let alone declare how 'bad' they may be. See a vet and have an x-ray done to determine if he has HD and if so the extent. It's not a death sentence! Don't worry.
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