|08-24-2013 11:28 AM|
Duly noted. We're doing solo stuff in equal measure with group play; I'll just cut out group play for the moment.
I'm just so wary of doing so much activity with her because of her developing joints. I have it rammed into my head from everybody to go easy on any sports until after 14 months; if she had it her way she'd be bouncing off the walls and running endlessly, and I'm trying to mediate her energy/drive with my desire to keep her sound and able to pass OFA at 2 years.
|08-23-2013 12:31 AM|
|GatorDog||I don't allow my puppies to play and run around free with a bunch of other loose dogs until they are old enough and/or capable of some basic off leash obedience and self control. At 6 months old, I would work her obedience/recall with a long line and keep her separated from any off leash group play until she has it down pat.|
|08-23-2013 12:26 AM|
|gagsd||Hold it. Don't let it drag.|
|08-23-2013 12:04 AM|
I'm honestly not getting the difference between a drag and a long line. It's a length of leash left trailing in either case, right? Or is there a subtle material difference I'm missing? I have been using a 12 ft cotton webbing line. I can't think of any material that would not still catch on any and everything in the yard and all the other dogs.
|08-22-2013 07:49 PM|
Not a drag line, but a long line. I would absolutely not allow her to continue the behavior.... one, it's annoying, and two as she ages it is likely to provoke a fight. She has drive, but you have to direct it.
As to an e-collar... I personally do not use electric, while still recognizing that it works for some people. This is not a case that, IMO, it would be appropriate.
She will only be 6 months old once... I would work on making the time to do some serious one-on-one training daily. Long-line, ball, treats and you. Tease her up a little with the ball, toss it 5 feet away, restrain her, and before she looses interest release her and then coax her back in to you. If she brings it but doesn't drop, use your treat to redirect. (you can also do this with 2-Ball).
Tracking is an awesome way to wear her little brain out.... and of course herding.
|08-22-2013 01:35 PM|
We've got a local dock-diving pool I really want to look into! They only do diving there, though, so we couldn't just swim. I'm fresh out of swim-only local pools to try. I've actually seriously considered getting one of those above-ground pools for the dogs to really swim in, but I have no clue how to build a deck for them to get in and out from. I'll keep researching it! Probably towards the end of the season here some will pop up on CL used, I could get a good price.
As soon as the ball is put away she stops obsessing over her target. I'll do more one-on-one ball play with her to see if she'll get back into it, but when I last tried she just watched it sail away across the yard and then came back to me for pets before lolloping off to hunt for rats. We've extended 'watch me' from a split second to about a second and a half, which is a HUGE improvement. We learned sit, touch, wait, and how to be calm before going through a door so far.
She's very food driven, but her attention span is so short... when she first came home, if following the food lure required more than a second of attention or moved farther than six inches from her nose she'd quit and hunt around for something else. Now she'll watch it all the way to my face, but it'd better go to her mouth immediately or she'll loose interest. She's also willing to look up and behind her to seek it now too.
Small steps! Phew!
|08-22-2013 01:23 PM|
|Diesel and Lace||
I'm certainly no expert so take it with a grain of salt if you will. I would train her separately from you other dogs for a specific task that she will really focus on that gets her really excited once you really are working well with that alone add one dog back in at a time while *attempting* to keep her focus on that one task. Stop training her individually with that task and it is only used when you are in the group setting and she is behaving properly. If she is not behaving in a manner you want she does not get that reward.
Diesel has no ball drive whatsoever so the flirt pole it is which is the tool I use the most to train. I have had great results redirecting with the flirt pole when he becomes obsessed with trying to eat the neighbors dog. We are to the point now when if he see's the neighbors dog and does not go into a frenzy instead comes to me we play vigorously with the flirt pole which is the only time he gets it lately. to my complete amazement about a week ago the neighbors dog came out and HOLY COW he came running to me and sat down like we had been practicing we played until he didnt want to play any longer.
|08-22-2013 01:13 PM|
I have a 4 month (will be 5 months the 3rd) and last night I took him to the lake. We stayed quite a while and had the dog of a friend's along as well. Between worrying about the other dog's business, swimming out to fetch toys and galloping through the shallower water (still up to his chest so he was bounding/hopping), he finally got on the shore and laid down voluntarily (for at LEAST 15 seconds). That's tired for him, particularly with another dog around!
If she isn't interested in ball playing, then I would leash and tether her out of the action while the others play for a while. Impulse control is a good exercise; I would then see if she will fetch/play if she's out there alone. I also have a kiddie pool that I'll put out. My puppy will loves it and will lie down in it to cool off before racing off to play. Of course it quickly gets nasty, but hey.. at least he's cooled off enough to keep bleeding off energy playing!
|08-22-2013 12:53 PM|
Also, how else do we get more exercise in for a 6 month old? She's already outside running non-stop for a half hour to an hour every day. With the heat in our area we can't do much mid-day so we're limited to mornings and evenings. I don't want to cause issues with her joints either, and she loves percussive play (diving onto and back off of the bed etc). We use the flirt pole too. I don't have much inside space so we can't do a lot of exuberant play. We're training twice a day for short periods and go out for group training once a week. With the rain as well it's been difficult to get everybody the outside time they need. She gets breakfast and dinner in a treat ball so it takes her longer and keeps her stimulated.
|08-22-2013 12:17 PM|
|Blanketback||When my puppy was very young, he'd focus on DH's dog too. She didn't want the attention, she didn't want to run and play with him: she wanted him to leave her alone. I was worried that when he got older, she'd end up giving him a bite if this kept up. What worked for me was to take him out separately. That way, I was the source of fun. He loves toys, flirt pole and frisbee are his favorites. It helped train him to leave her alone, because he knew she wasn't going to be his entertainment|
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