|08-31-2013 09:48 PM|
I didnt really believe him because he was still sweet, cute and being normal
Today i had to feed him and witnessed it. I gave him his food. he wasnt eating it so i sat down next to it. this is when he growled at me. He didnt look and growl, his face was in his food growling. I was so shocked i told him off and walked out the room just to kinda get back to reality..this was kai ? the one ive raised since 8 weeks lol (hes no 16 months). I went back in there took the food off of him, sat down and hand fed him, he was fine.
I am not a professional trainer so take it for what its worth, I have however owned two unneutered male dogs for the whole of their natural lives (an actual British Old English Sheepdog - a LOT closer to the working originals than what is bred here, and a little Jack Russel). Currently I own three blue heeler females.
IMHO Kai is just now becoming fully mature (this happens about age two, both in wolves and dogs), no longer a puppy, and is starting to test his limits. No offense intended but from the sound of your post it doesn't sound like Kai has been subject to many alpha displays of dominance from his owners.
I'm sure you know that dogs NEVER live in a democracy, somebody is always boss. When Kai growls at you it doesn't mean he doesn't like you, it just means he wants to determine the outcome of the particular event in question ie. be the alpha.
I wouldn't tolerate guarding for a heartbeat, of anything. I have to be alpha, all the time. When they were growing up and even now I made/make a point of reaching in and taking away anything the dogs had, food, chew toy or bone.
I do not care if the dogs feel anxiety that I am going to take it from them, because sometimes, if its a piece of rotten carcass or something, I AM going to take it from them. Whatever it is I can take it, any time, those are the rules. Most times I give it back.
A firm NO and sometimes a heavy hand on the shoulders is all it takes with mine, but I fear that you doing so with Kai this late in the game would spark a confrontation.
As stated, I would feed him by hand for a while. I would not care if he loses weight, in fact it wouldn't trouble me at all if he didn't eat for a week. He's a dog, with that predator physiology, he'll be fine. In my experience dogs can both drop and gain weight with an alacrity that stuns us mere humans.
Furthermore I would make a point of feeding him anywhere within reason that I wanted to, I would not care if he found it disturbing, he'll adjust. When I fed him I'd feed him from a closed fist, making him work at it with his nose, taking time. This so he wouldn't get into the habit of snapping at what I gave him. And all the time he was doing right I would praise him.
It is important here that your dad (?? can't see original post) do this too. Kai has to understand that he's at the bottom of the pecking order, always. otherwise he'll be subservient to you but continue to growl and eventually worse at your dad.
More than anything else though, if you can swing it I'd enlist the services and advice of a competent trainer. its too late to try and "nip this in the bud"; Kai is already nearly a year and a half old. You just don't want this to progress any further, because the next step is a growl and a sudden snap, and possibly an actual dog bite, especially on your dad.
Hope this helps,
|08-27-2013 04:58 PM|
Your dog is guarding his food. It's tough when that happens. Frustrating, depressing, and a little insulting that your dog is doing this. I know because I have a resource guarder. But try to remove your emotions and realize that resource/food guarding is a natural instinct for dogs. The dog who guards his resources survives. I will say it is a little strange that your dog is now 16 months only just starting to display this behavior. Usually it crops up a lot earlier if preventative exercises are not done. But it's good that you're catching it early because it will be easier to stop it.
Don't cut his food to one meal a day. I'd also recommend against feeding him strictly in a crate. It may work for some, but for my dog it just taught him to guard his crate as well as his food. It also simply manages the behavior and does nothing to teach him that he does not need to guard.
Your dog needs to realize that you will not take his food away. Your approach should signify something better (like a piece of cheese, hot dog, steak, etc). Toss him a treat while he is eating. Start at farther distances and gradually get closer. Slowly work up to being able to bend down and put the treat directly in the bowl. It may take a few weeks to get to that point. Don't rush it.
Always make him sit or lie down and wait quietly to be released to his food bowl. This should be on a verbal release cue from you, not just as soon as the bowl hits the floor.
Don't pet him while he's eating. I don't know why people think this is necessary. Do you want your hair stroked while you're eating? No, it's annoying. Maybe some people just insist on it (and in that case, you're going to have some more training to do) but for me, all I really care about is being able to walk by my dogs while they're eating and they have either a neutral or expectant reaction because they think I might give them a treat. I don't need to pet them or take their bowl away until they're finished. I give them the same courtesy I expect when eating my own meal.
|08-25-2013 09:36 AM|
You got good advice on the guarding.
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|08-25-2013 08:24 AM|
|Jrnabors||They told us in puppy class to constantly take things away from the dog and then give it back so that they wouldn't do that.|
|08-23-2013 01:50 AM|
|mharrisonjr26||I personally feed my dogs 6 months and older 2x a day . My pup gets it during training. Usually 1 meal is obedience, sometimes tracking. The second meal is feed in crate or again out of my hand. My older dogs who are primarly just pets get their food on the floor..lol. Maybe outside in the yard just to make them use their noses. I think it gives them a good amount of mental stimulation to eat off the ground In sort of a small tracking square. They hardly ever waste food and I have never had a guarding problem or aggression issues in general. I would do as the MODs have suggested. Hope|
|08-23-2013 01:48 AM|
|08-23-2013 01:30 AM|
Personally, I will not tolerate resource guarding from my dog, even if he is a 12 lb. Pomeranian.
I would measure out his food and he would only be receiving food from my hand. Kibbles as treats throughout the day, working on very simple, very basic commands and reinforcing good behavior and perfecting imperfect commands throughout the day - things like that.
I would be the provider of food. Food comes from me and ONLY me, and it would be a while before it comes from a bowl.
It may be easier to just feed him in the crate, but if my dog were to ever get ahold of something I needed to take away from him and he wanted to guard it, I'm not going to get bitten trying to take away from him.
When Ozzy was a puppy, I practiced petting him for very short periods while he ate and then left him alone to continue eating. Sometimes I'd pick up his bowl for a few seconds while he was eating and put it back down. I didn't bug him the entire time he was eating, but I would interfere for just a moment to ensure that he would not be possessive of his food or any other resources.
Obviously you shouldn't do this with your dog (what I practiced when Oz was a pup), as that would be a recipe for disaster, but resource guarding is one thing I 100% absolutely will not, and will never, put up with my dogs.
|08-23-2013 01:18 AM|
|08-23-2013 12:47 AM|
I read somewhere that un neutered dogs can be aggressive. Sometimes an un neutered dog has a more dominate attitude. That may not be the issue, just a suggestion. Good luck!
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|08-22-2013 04:30 PM|
|holland||I agree with what Diane said-don't know why you would cut his food -right now I am doing crate games with Rorie she goes into her crate gets feed sits and get feed-I am hand feeding her and she works for her food -doing games out of Ruff Love Susan Garrett-its a short book|
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