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01-10-2013 01:11 AM
ILGHAUS
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If you would like to start a new thread on this I would be happy to get into this in detail.
I see you have started another thread.
01-07-2013 07:11 PM
Xeph
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I would want to find some other hobby to do that can give to the dog.
For some dogs, I'm sure unbridled affection without being scolded is ideal. For others, not so much.

I actually don't even participate in therapy work. I just think it's a silly notion that a dog that works in service is incapable, or would be confused by, laying on a bed or near somebody and being touched.

Mostly I find the logic that it would confuse the dog flawed, because to me it implies that nobody should ever interact with my SD EVER but me. And I totally reject that idea. I mean, should I not allow friends that come into my home to pet my working dog, lest he be confused in public?

Just seems a bit silly to me. Just my opinion.
01-07-2013 04:28 PM
JeanKBBMMMAAN But for a dog, who already has a job, do they really need a job-hobby? Wouldn't it be nice to find something more fun for them to do? Not that therapy work isn't fun for a dog, but dang, that's a lot.

If that were a person they'd be talking about burn out!

I would want to find some other hobby to do that can give to the dog.
01-07-2013 04:16 PM
Xeph
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So, do you think it is ok for your SD to act and be treated like a pet in public by strangers or others? Did you train your own SD?
I do not, and yes I did.

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2. By definition it is a conflict in terms legally.
Conflict in terms, yes, but that's an issue of terminology, not of what the dog is able to do.
01-07-2013 03:32 PM
JakodaCD OA I can see the difference between 'pet' and 'working'..I guess I don't understand why an SD in work mode who isn't soliciting attention or deviates from it's "work"..cannot have some 'off' time to do therapy dog interaction?

To me it's like saying, the dog doesn't know the difference between doing obedience and doing agility? (just as an example)
01-07-2013 11:44 AM
SFGSSD
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Originally Posted by carmspack View Post
every organization that i have dealt with - is pretty clear cut on the difference between pet and working .
Confusion from the dog may mean that the dog is retired , or does not pass certification.
exactly!
01-07-2013 11:27 AM
carmspack every organization that I have dealt with - is pretty clear cut on the difference between pet and working .
Confusion from the dog may mean that the dog is retired , or does not pass certification.
01-07-2013 11:04 AM
SFGSSD
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Originally Posted by Xeph View Post
I must say, I also disagree with an SD not being able to do therapy work. Do you think that SDs shouldn't be allowed to participate in sports either? Because I disagree there, too, if that's the case.


It is for the therapy group that says SDs can't do both.

I think it largely depends on what the dog is for.

My handicap is neurological. My dog needn't be "on" when I am sitting down. I am in no danger. I don't see how it's contradictory or conflicting to my dog to lay on a bed or sit on the floor next to somebody while somebody pets him.

He doesn't solicit attention out in public, and knows the difference (and acts entirely different) between his vest being on and off.
So, do you think it is ok for your SD to act and be treated like a pet in public by strangers or others? Did you train your own SD?
1. There are associative behaviors that can result in this and it can be dangerous for the SD handler.
2. By definition it is a conflict in terms legally.
I will start another thread on this when I got time.
01-07-2013 09:45 AM
Xeph I must say, I also disagree with an SD not being able to do therapy work. Do you think that SDs shouldn't be allowed to participate in sports either? Because I disagree there, too, if that's the case.

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Is it a presumption that doing Therapy work will mess up the dog for the handler ?
It is for the therapy group that says SDs can't do both.

I think it largely depends on what the dog is for.

My handicap is neurological. My dog needn't be "on" when I am sitting down. I am in no danger. I don't see how it's contradictory or conflicting to my dog to lay on a bed or sit on the floor next to somebody while somebody pets him.

He doesn't solicit attention out in public, and knows the difference (and acts entirely different) between his vest being on and off.
01-07-2013 09:11 AM
JakodaCD OA while I don't understand really the "whys" of this being a hot topic..I honestly don't see the problem with an SD dog going into a hospital/retirement home/whatever, and be a Therapy dog? Is it a presumption that doing Therapy work will mess up the dog for the handler ?
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