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12-31-2012 08:59 AM
HankGSD
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Originally Posted by GatorBytes View Post
Temaril P is a pretty sketchy drug for an unknown itchy skin problem (however you cannot just stop it)


What side effects may be seen when taking Temaril-P?
Side effects are usually dose dependent. If side effects occur, contact your veterinarian, who may decrease the dosage or frequency of administration. Side effects may include sedation, exposed third eyelid, muscle tremors, weakness, blood disorders, and an increase in drinking, eating, and urinating. Your pet may have more "accidents" and need to go outside or use the litter box more often. Less common side effects include increased appetite, weight gain, panting, diarrhea, vomiting, and behavior changes.
Hank had been given Temaril-P for itching and immediately had diarrhea. I think I used 3 pills before throwing them away, and they cost $60. Same vet also put him on Simplicef for well over $100 a bottle. (I do not go to that vet anymore, they must get kickbacks from Pfizer, or else they must buy the drugs and mark them up 500 percent.)

I have had good results from fish oil and just started coconut oil this week. Hoping for good results. He does not have bad allergies but he does sometimes itch frequently and gets occasional hot spots.
12-18-2012 03:19 PM
Momto2GSDs AWESOME!!!!! I'm sure you won't be sorry! Had it not been for homeopathy and diet, our first GSD would have been dead at 2, but she lived until 12!!!! BTW, better to completely change vets (take records with you) than keep the current one and consult with the holistic. A whole bunch of posturing goes on between two different mind sets and you'd be caught in the middle of confusion!
If you'd like to feed your baby REAL honest to goodness HUMAN food b/c you cannot do the raw routine, please try The Honest Kitchen brands purchased at doggy boutiques (not chains) or on line. All Natural Dog Food | Dehydrated Raw Dog Food | Like Homemade Pet Food It is the ONLY company in the USA that the FDA Legally allows the words "Human Grade" to be used on their packaging and advertising. This is dehydrated pure food. 10# will cost around $83 but re-hydrates with water to make approx 35 pounds. Well worth the $2.40 per pound! Rotate with Non-Grain varieties, Zeal, Embark, and Force. They meet the AAFCO nutrient profiles. They other things that would be helpful for him would be Organic, Virgin Coconut Oil (NO hexane, NO gmo's) purchase at a local health food store and Neptune Krill Oil on line. Be aware that all Krill is not the same and quality in a product counts. I use DaVinci Nepturne Krill Oil as one of my rotations Neptune Krill Oil 60 Softgels by DaVinci Labs Start out slow with the krill and work up to 1 per day of this brand. Feel free to pm me if you'd like more info.
PS: Please note the warnings that Gator mentioned.
Good luck and keep us posted!
Moms
12-18-2012 10:36 AM
Jax08 Since he is allergic to grasses and trees, I"m not sure this will work as it did for my dog, but you could try feeding 1 tsp of local, unpasteurized honey. This worked for my girl's seasonal allergies.
12-18-2012 10:26 AM
burnyd
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Originally Posted by GatorBytes View Post
Invest in an integrative vet (holistic DVM) and change diet from processed to natural, limit toxins (incl. immuno suppressents/steroids), this is a band-aide effect that will lead to further illness. A derm will run tests to find staph or some other - this can be treated from the inside out with what nature intended - real whole food, NOT cephalaxin and steroids, pesticides (heartworm/flea/tick), aluminum, mercury,formaldihyde (all in the adjuvants of vaccines), rendered fats (carcinogens sprayed on the food-cooked fats are toxic), processed meats devoid of natural enzymes and amino acids, high carb foods that spike insulin levels.

How come vets never blame the drugs they use and always blame the food
I am planning on seeing the vet listed from Momto2GSDs closest to me. I can switch his food again to give it a shot.. what you are saying makes a lot of sense. Is there anything you suggest as far as brands goes?

you guys are great thanks for all the suggestions.
12-18-2012 07:57 AM
Momto2GSDs Here is a list from the American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association (AHVMA) in PA if you decide to change. Most Western Medicine veterinarians are not versed in holistic practices to get to the root of problems like these. Choose one with as many modality credentials as possible, especially if they are versed in Homotoxicology/Homeopathy. It will be worth the trip!

Hope this helps! Moms
Allen, Sherilyn
VMD
IRONSTONE VETERINARY HOSPITAL
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PA
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PA
18618
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Busch, Sara
DVM
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215-287-3206
1233 Manor Road
Havertown
PA
19083
United States
www.artisanvet.com
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Collins, Karen
VMD
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215-968-3895
107 Penns Trail
Newtown
PA
18940
United States
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Philadelphia
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PA
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728 LAWRENCE AVE
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PA
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12-18-2012 02:39 AM
msvette2u
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Originally Posted by Verivus View Post
Can you afford to see a board certified dermatologist? That's where I would start if you have the money and your regular vet can't figure it out.
Only 10 % of allergies are food allergies.
That said, there's an "allergy bucket" and when it's full of allergens, other things can trigger.

OP, try fish/sweet potato or even venison or bison.
If dog's allergic to chicken, there can be cross reactivity to duck.
12-18-2012 01:13 AM
GatorBytes Invest in an integrative vet (holistic DVM) and change diet from processed to natural, limit toxins (incl. immuno suppressents/steroids), this is a band-aide effect that will lead to further illness. A derm will run tests to find staph or some other - this can be treated from the inside out with what nature intended - real whole food, NOT cephalaxin and steroids, pesticides (heartworm/flea/tick), aluminum, mercury,formaldihyde (all in the adjuvants of vaccines), rendered fats (carcinogens sprayed on the food-cooked fats are toxic), processed meats devoid of natural enzymes and amino acids, high carb foods that spike insulin levels.

How come vets never blame the drugs they use and always blame the food
12-18-2012 12:03 AM
Verivus Can you afford to see a board certified dermatologist? That's where I would start if you have the money and your regular vet can't figure it out.
12-17-2012 11:56 PM
GatorBytes Temaril P is a pretty sketchy drug for an unknown itchy skin problem (however you cannot just stop it)


What side effects may be seen when taking Temaril-P?
Side effects are usually dose dependent. If side effects occur, contact your veterinarian, who may decrease the dosage or frequency of administration. Side effects may include sedation, exposed third eyelid, muscle tremors, weakness, blood disorders, and an increase in drinking, eating, and urinating. Your pet may have more "accidents" and need to go outside or use the litter box more often. Less common side effects include increased appetite, weight gain, panting, diarrhea, vomiting, and behavior changes.
Side effects of long-term use include muscle loss, weakness, and the development of diabetes or hyperadrenocorticism (Cushing's disease). The typical signs of these diseases are increased thirst, urination, and appetite. Animals with Cushing's disease may also develop thin skin, a poor hair coat, and a "pot-belly."
Immune system suppression may occur, especially on higher doses, making a pet more susceptible to infection. Contact your veterinarian if your pet has a fever (over 103 F), painful urination (a sign of urinary tract infection), tiredness, and sneezing, coughing, or runny eyes.

Temaril-P (Brand)

Have you considered that processed food may be the problem? If allergies are only to plants, then you could try benedryl, or quercetin/bromelien combo.

Raw food - grain and carb free
This may be yeasty issue too, relates to imbalance in the adrenals. Taking out all sugars from diet (carbs, peas, grains, potato's, etc.) adding raw organic cold pressed coconut oil (do forum search for threads on this) at 1tsp./10lbs of body weight (slowly at min. dose and work up over a month if full grown, 2 tblsps. re: detox).

Is he neutered/when?
Any skin changes, raw lesions or blackening?
Any "pest prevention"?
12-17-2012 11:36 PM
burnyd
Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorBytes View Post
LOL Hunter, I was just going to do a quick skim, about to feed my dog, but may as well get details.

What food?
What (if any) suppliments
When and what was last vaccine and vax schedule
Is spot on or pill form heartworm prevention (fleas/tick too)used, from when to when
Any other meds
Any other "issues" - bowel, ears, eye goop,
When did this start? Most prominant locations, one sided, itch same on both, any blackening of skin of inner thigh or arm pits, lesions
Is he neutered, if yes, when

Where do you live and do you have type grasses and tree's
Thanks for all the responses.

I switched his food over the summer to a Hypo alergenic food I believe it was duck and potato? Generally I feed Hercules Royal Canine he seems to like it the best. Using the Duck and Potato game him the same results.

As far as the supliments or the steroids the vet subscribed Temaroil P and Cephalexin. I just started the fish oil in his food. It has only been 2 weeks but since the last time we put him on the same exact steroids there has been no itching licking or scratching.

Im not 100% sure when his vaccines were done the vet says hes good for a while.

Everything started about a year ago. I live in Pittsburgh,PA right next to the Pittsburgh Airport. I cant tell if this all started last year when I moved around this time, since it was winter. I started to notice all the itching licking and scratching around the summer time.
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