|12-17-2012 11:43 PM|
Kudos to Kira but kudos to you too!
Lately we have been charged at by numerous dogs....I am sick of it. I have been working so hard to get Stella's reactivity under control and these stupid encounters set us back. I use the leave it command too. It works until another dog gets too close. We were almost at the point of being able to just walk by another dog.....and then thank you very much for the loose charging dogs....ugh...
|12-14-2012 12:56 PM|
|Kayos and Havoc||
Thankfully a neighbor saw all of this and came out with shovel anf helped me thwart the other dogs.
Generally, I try to act like 'no big deal'. Tell mine to leave it and continue to maove forward or retreat if I need to, but keep moving so they do not fixate.
|12-12-2012 07:54 PM|
I can not concieve of an instance with my dog with me and me noticing a dog (or person) coming at us aggressively and him not seeing it and reacting as soon or before I could.
Just the nature and personality of the breed (or individual dog, perhaps!).
|12-12-2012 06:54 PM|
|12-12-2012 02:44 PM|
|llombardo||I had an dog aggressive dog go for my Gsd at agility...I seen the dog coming and swung mine around and blocked her. Luckily the owner got her in time, my dog didn't even know what just happened. All I know is that dog was not getting my dog.|
|12-12-2012 02:12 PM|
Also, agree with Carmen very much and how she suggests handling it/how she explains it. That is the safest, most effective method.
When it comes to protecting my dog, I am a little blind. I'll admit that. I have always been happy to put myself in danger to protect Hunter, or even break up dog fights throughout my life. Don't be as ballsy as I am... I just do what comes naturally to me. Being bitten doesn't bother me... I have been bitten so many times. Instability, aggression, etc doesn't scare me - been exposed my whole life. I've worked with so many dogs, seen so much poor temperament. I will probably get myself badly hurt someday. I know that. I had a big bruise on my leg on my wedding day that showed in my pictures, all because my fear gets turned off during a dog fight. I just react. Not safe. I realize that every time someone calls me out on it, but I can't change it. I don't want to see dogs hurt, so I put myself in danger. It's unsafe, but it's how I roll.
Anthony, be safe. Take everyone's advice here on how to deal with it.
Hunter has been SAFELY exposed to many, many dogs. A combination of genetics and my effort and socialization result in him not reacting to reactive dogs. I literally worked him in obedience every time a dog reacted to him, calm praise for focus on me, etc. Calm praise for being calm in the face of instability. Hunter is calm and clear headed in the face of a threat, he knows he doesn't have to react because I am the unstable one with low threshold and I will protect him at all costs. He has never had bad experiences. That little dog was the first time he got bitten by another dog, ever, and I am proud of his reaction.
I got lucky, Hunter is an easy dog. No reactivity, solid nerves, etc.
I have great respect for those who TRY and WORK HARD to work with dogs that aren't so easy. That is what matters, Anthony. You are TRYING and your dog isn't easy. So, big respect to you. Big respect to you for coming on here, sharing your experiences as ugly as they could be, and taking advice. Even if things aren't perfect (NO DOG IS PERFECT, PERFECTION DOESN'T EXIST)... you are giving it your best.
Sorry for ranting.. uhg. I try not too but can't stop sharing my thoughts. LOL.
Carmen -- you are very right about the leash issue for legal matters... I won't drop leash if it ever comes to that. Thanks for bringing that up!
|12-12-2012 01:56 PM|
Carmen -- I just do what works for me. Haha.
I have lifted many dogs up by the neck and thrown them backwards during a fight. I spent many years working with shelter dogs and years working in a dog boarding kennel where I supervised socialization and play between strange groups of dogs for hours on end. I broke up countless fights. I've been bitten a few times, been hurt, but I really don't care. I just use the method that works best for me.
Hunter didn't get a chance to defend himself from the dog. I kicked it away immediately, blocked Hunter in the corner of the elevator and kept the dog away while telling Hunter to leave it. It lasted less than a minute. I know my dog will be blamed and targeted if he puts his teeth on any dog, and I will do whatever it takes to prevent that. Hunter has had a lot of safe exposure to unstable dogs, on purpose, and those same exposure taught him that I will deal with it, not him.
Please lets not focus on me and what I do to break up dog fights... just sharing my experience with Anthony and what works best for me.
Everyone seems to agree that YOU need to control the situation and your dog and not panic/have anxiety. Keep moving, keep control, KEEP CALM!!...
|12-12-2012 01:41 PM|
My job then is to grab the aggressor by the collar/neck and lift up, keeping head under control and away from Hunter until I can get my spare slip lead out and get control of the dog.
oh never -- keep the distance as best as you can -- CONTROL your own dog -- try to scare the other dog with voice and intention
and I would never drop the leash of my own dog -- then you loose control , and should it come down to charges and court for damages then you can prove that your dog was properly (legally) leashed and under your control - the fault lies with the loose dog.
the only time I would drop a leash is if the other dog does engage and I risk being seriously harmed by being in the middle . It has happened . A friend of mine , with MS by the way , got in the middle of a fight with an Akita that ran out onto the road and started a fight with her GSD . She had her calf muscle ripped and was hospitalized for a long time with lots of complications because of the MS .
|12-12-2012 01:31 PM|
Ever have to do this - grab a strange, aggressive dog by the neck and lift up?
Sounds like a great way to get seriously bitten in the hands, arms and maybe face!
BTW, your dog got bit in the face and didn't even try to defend himself?
Don't think my dog would have been quite so mellow! (Nor would i want him to be of course)
|12-12-2012 01:23 PM|
|carmspack||agree 110% with Wild Wolf --- I road work my dogs , running beside my bike on my rural roads and many a dog does the long run down a driveway to bark at us . One time a dog did a bit more , actually came out onto the road and made it clear it was targeting my dog aggressively. This could be bad . I could have been knocked off the bike and then been in the middle of some great heated battle , so , my dog "leaving it" under control on lead , I jumped off the bike and use the bike as a barrier , bumping the aggressive dog if it got close , turning around keeping an eye on it the whole time. Of course yelling "come and get your dog " as loud and as often as I could till finally the guy comes out of his house , realizes the chain has broken and tries to get his dog which has zero obedience, finally grabs the end of the chain dragging , comes up close to grab the collar and then his dog , surprised, gives him a quick nip. We continue as if nothing happened.|
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