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12-07-2012 11:35 AM
FlyAway My dogs all obey the "stay" command. If they are standing, stay means that paws do not move from where they are. I have a funny photo series of one of my puppies in a "stay. His 4 feet never move, but the rest of his body is all over the place.
12-07-2012 11:15 AM
Zisso Chicago Canine...I went to that first link and found the harnesses. I watched the video showing the difference between parade and siwash harnesses here Working Harnesses | allthingsbiothane.com

All I could think was "oh my word...I should give up before I start because Nadia will never hold still to get a harness on like that dog does!" LOL She would be the most likely dog I have to be able to pull well. Zisso is not a pwerhouse like her, but would hold still for the harness.
12-07-2012 01:51 AM
Chicagocanine A 2 wheeled cart is easier to train than 4 wheeled, they are more stable and easier to turn and back up for the dog. Personally if you don't require a 4 wheeled one I'd go with a 2 wheeled cart at least in the beginning. This generally doesn't work for having human passengers though, except for certain specially made for that...

You can get a nice beginners cart here:
Carts | allthingsbiothane.com
BernerPaw Carts and Wagons

If you are building a 4 wheeled wagon make surety axel is the type where the wheels stay in place rather than rotating together underneath the wagon which can be unstable and cause tipping.
Like this, this is the type you don't want:
http://images.babyage.com/icons/loca...r-wagon-22.jpg
12-06-2012 06:32 PM
FlyAway The "Little Wagon" $299.

Dog Works Wagons
12-06-2012 04:52 PM
Zisso
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(HEEHEE, I just placed my order for the Small Dogworks Wagon. That is going to be so much fun!)
Which one?
12-06-2012 12:29 PM
FlyAway There are a lot of fun videos on Youtube where you can see all breeds pulling all kinds of vehicles. I remember one of a woman with a GSD and a sulky. Though, I don't think it's far for my dogs to be pulling me around when I am capable of walking and need the exercize.

(HEEHEE, I just placed my order for the Small Dogworks Wagon. That is going to be so much fun!)
12-06-2012 11:28 AM
Zisso Chicago Canine Thank you for the input!

The more I think about it, with the two I have now anyway, I would have to walk next to them and lead them. Not so much because pulling would be an issue, because at 5 yrs old they still pull on the leash,, but due to not having any previous commands like slow down, go, etc and they would likely try to go where ever their hearts desired. I know the cart itself would prevent some of that with the way they are hooked up to it, but then my next issue would be if they saw another dog and tried to act out.

So if I do pursue this, I see myself getting a lot of exercise too
12-05-2012 09:49 PM
Chicagocanine If you want something a little simpler, there are carts out there that are basically just a seat on wheels.

For just carting/drafting not carrying a person, you can get a beginner's type 2-wheeled cart for a fairly low price, or a nicer one for a little bit more.

I did some carting with my Golden Retriever, a friend of mine built her a cart out of wood but it ended up being really heavy. I went to dog camp with my GSD a few years ago and they had a carting trainer and he was able to give us a short lesson, and Bianca had never done carting before so I wasn't sure how far we'd get. However in that short time, it was maybe 30-45 minutes, we went from her never having seen a cart before, introduced the harness, introduced the cart and actually had her pulling the cart on her own during that time! Of course we went through each step you would normally go through (just putting the harness on, showing her the cart, having her walk next to the cart, hooking her up, having her walk with the cart behind her but not pulling it, having her pull it but with us holding it, etc...) but she breezed through each one so quickly and was so comfortable with it that we were able to get her from zero to pulling the cart in that short lesson. So it may not take as long as you think to train them, depending on the dog's personality and comfort level. My Golden I went slowly, introducing her to the cart, having her pull milk jugs and so on like the "Intro to Carting" site's instruction say. Of course you also have to train the commands for slow down/speed up, go, stop, and turns after that, but I always teach my dogs commands that mean to slow down, speed up and stop anyway even without the carting so I pretty much just need to add the left/right turns...

One thing about having you in the wagon, you will have to do a lot more training if you want to actually do "driving" because they will be on their own without you holding a leash and walking with them to guide them along. I also found my Golden didn't like to pull if I was behind her, I think it was because her training to not pull on the leash was so ingrained so she would only pull the cart if I was next to her or in front of her.
12-05-2012 06:32 PM
Zisso
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Originally Posted by FlyAway View Post
Not too heavy for 2 GSD. It looks like I could pull it easily. Make sure you understand how the harness works for pulling and breaking. For pulling the dog is attached to a tree that helps to distribute the dog's natural cadence. For breaking, there is usually an attachment on the poles that prevents the wagon from "riding up" on the dog when stopping or going down hills.

Now you have me considering buying a 4 wheel wagon from dogworks.com for Christmas.
Cool! Thank you I am almost thinking this might be a bit too ambitious for me, but it sure would be a fun, exciting and interesting experience.

In the wagon I pictured, perhaps I could ride too? It worries me cause I am 150lbs, plus add a kid or two and the weight of the wagon. But I am also thinking one way to approach this endeaver is to talk to the fellow how gives the Horse and Buggy rides. Who knows, he might just think this would be a great idea and help me build it

Once it is built, I think the toughest part will be training my dogs.

Who knows, I might have to raise two more dogs in my future to train into it as the grow up So you get a new cart, I get new dogs(maybe)
12-05-2012 05:25 PM
FlyAway Not too heavy for 2 GSD. It looks like I could pull it easily. Make sure you understand how the harness works for pulling and breaking. For pulling the dog is attached to a tree that helps to distribute the dog's natural cadence. For breaking, there is usually an attachment on the poles that prevents the wagon from "riding up" on the dog when stopping or going down hills.

Now you have me considering buying a 4 wheel wagon from dogworks.com for Christmas.
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