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12-15-2015 12:07 AM
DanaM
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Originally Posted by Cstout View Post
Stark, who is 9 months old seems to have suddenly developed bad breath. It smells almost fishy, and he does eat salmon flavored food. But, he has eaten this food for probably 4 to 5 months now and I just now noticed his bad breath. The BF noticed as well. We also noticed he seems to be lethargic when in our room. When we are in the room he has free reign of the room while we watch tv, sleep, or whatever. And, he is usually driving us crazy bringing us his ball. He brings it to us to play fetch almost non stop. And, he hasnt been doing that. But, when we go outside he seems perfectly normal. He runs and plays. We took him out all day yesterday and he chewed sticks, we worked on some commands, played with my family. But, then when we get back home, back to the unusually lazy puppy. He was sick at about 4 months of age... and he was very very sick. My BF and I were certain he was going to die. We couldnt afford to get enough tests to get an actual diagnosis. But, with the blood tests we got done and his temp being 106 degrees and everything being cured in two to three days with antibiotics we assumed it was some sort of infection. And, he has been fine ever since. If he hadnt been sick before and if we didnt know how energetic he was before we probably wouldnt be worrying at all right now. But, Im really worried somthing is going on with him. We checked his temp last night and got a rectal reading of 101.8 degrees. And, he isnt displaying any other symptoms other than the bad breath and being so calm/lethargic in our room. Should I be worried?
Not to demote your possible health concerns: Could it be your sensitivity to bad animal breath?

My girl has stinky fishy breath too. I complained to the vet and her assistant. They said Sofi has beautiful healthy teeth and they definitely were not offended by my dogs breath. I assume it is just me. (I absolutely HATE my cat's breath too)

Regardless of what the vet says, I am going to get Sofi some dog tooth paste and start doing brushing her teeth.
11-25-2012 07:47 PM
GatorBytes
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Thank you for the responses. He had the previous sickness months ago and finished the antibiotics months ago. So, im not really thinking it has anything to do with the antibiotics wearing off. But, im concerned that maybe what he had before if it was something serious is starting to come back. I am worried that its a kidney issue. When he was sick the vet said he showed low kidney function on his blood results. I didn't know if it was an issue or just something caused by the infection he had. He seems very chipper today, way more energy but still stinky breath. And I learned recently that licking of the chops means pain, and he does lick his chops while urinating. Im thinking I need to get him in for a checkup and definitely get a urine sample done. Could he just have a kidney infection? Or is it more likely he could have kidney failure? I know you guys can't diagnose, but maybe you've got some more knowledge than I do you can share with me. Thanks so much.
Fishy breath IS an early warning sign - sweet or ammonia smelling would already mean diabetes.

Now this has been indicated in blood panel prior so yes - get him checked out - it could just be an infection re: peeing and licking chops.
It may have been a result of infection or treatment (re: blood work ref.)
Good luck, hope your doggie is well
11-25-2012 07:46 PM
Jax08
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When he was sick the vet said he showed low kidney function on his blood results. I didn't know if it was an issue or just something caused by the infection he had.
When at the vet, ask about CREA and BUN levels. Did they do phosphorus and calcium levels? I'm really surprised the vet did not follow up with this.

It could have been caused by the infection if he had a UTI. But it can also be caused by infection that is systematic in the body. Which is one reason the vets are pushing dental cleanings. We have a Boxer with CRF (chronic renal failure) from bad teeth because the kidney have to work so hard to process the poison in the body.
11-25-2012 07:36 PM
msvette2u Only the vet can answer that...hopefully you can get him in tomorrow?
11-25-2012 07:34 PM
Cstout Thank you for the responses. He had the previous sickness months ago and finished the antibiotics months ago. So, im not really thinking it has anything to do with the antibiotics wearing off. But, im concerned that maybe what he had before if it was something serious is starting to come back. I am worried that its a kidney issue. When he was sick the vet said he showed low kidney function on his blood results. I didn't know if it was an issue or just something caused by the infection he had. He seems very chipper today, way more energy but still stinky breath. And I learned recently that licking of the chops means pain, and he does lick his chops while urinating. Im thinking I need to get him in for a checkup and definitely get a urine sample done. Could he just have a kidney infection? Or is it more likely he could have kidney failure? I know you guys can't diagnose, but maybe you've got some more knowledge than I do you can share with me. Thanks so much.
11-25-2012 07:19 PM
msvette2u The dog needs to see a vet...but kidney's wouldn't make the breath smell like fish.

There's a possibility the dog is licking anal glands, too, which could make the breath smell "fishy".
Either way, sort it out @ the vet.
11-25-2012 06:31 PM
GatorBytes
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Couldn't bad breath be a kidney issue?


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Yeah, that was the original direction both Jax and I were questioning
11-25-2012 06:04 PM
Capone22 Couldn't bad breath be a kidney issue?


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11-25-2012 05:55 PM
Jax08 Cstout - I know the discussion has turned to whether their teeth should be brushed or not and is about to be badly sidetracked but I would still be concerned about the combination of bad breath and lethargy. Bad breath can be a sign of many things gone wrong internally. For instance, my daughter's was caused by acid reflux caused by gall stones. It's the lethargy that I'm concerned about and would definitely get a vet visit. The vet might spot something in his mouth that is causing it that we, as lay people, may miss.
11-25-2012 05:54 PM
GatorBytes
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Originally Posted by llombardo View Post
And if the day ever comes that your dog can't chew bones?? Will you brush the teeth then??? Just asking. I don't think that giving them bones is bad at all and it does help.
! Bite your tongue - LOL...me guess I be sticking my fingers in his mouth.

Side note: and not suggesting as I am not sure that this is what helped, he did have the browning on his canines and although I had him on raw for a year + (was on kibble for 1st 4yrs - he's 8 now)...I started putting a dropper full of colloidal silver in his water - not for this reason either, just to kill bacteria in his water - a month or so later there was only a tiny speck. I had since stopped the CS and the specks are gone too
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