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|11-14-2012 08:57 PM|
I'm not willing to neuter Ozzy to get PAL registration. I asked them if a vasectomy would be acceptable, but I didn't get a definitive answer. They basically just said I could register him if he's neutered....
I'm good with people. Being in customer service for almost 3 years now, I've learned to be patient and explain things differently to help people understand.
Woofstock is this Saturday, and the agility club I'm looking into will be there, so I'll go talk to them about getting Ozzy into that. In the meantime, I'll work with him more and post more videos of him.
I'll also work with friends' dogs.
|11-13-2012 12:39 PM|
I agree with the others in that it is experience that makes for a good trainer, and the only way to gain experience is time and working with dogs. I think it's great that you want to look to this down the road, but think that now having done some flyball with one dog you don't yet have the experience or skills to hang up a shingle. Go to different classes and get involved in different things with Ozzy. Read books, watch videos, attend seminars. If you can apprentice under a good trainer, that is even better. Many will allow you to do so for free in exchange for you just helping out with their classes as having an assistant can really make the trainer's life a lot easier. And then understand it will take time.
Even though you're not looking to work with problem dogs, just teaching basic obedience to pet owners requires a broad set of skills. You need to understand a variety of different training techniques and be able to work with different temperament types and drive levels in order to identify what will work best for each individual dog that comes into your class, and then apply techniques appropriate for that dog. And as others said, the bigger part of training is teaching the humans, not the dogs. You have to be able to communicate with people, get them to understand what to do and when to do it and why, and that requires also being able to figure out how to work with a variety of different temperaments and drive levels in the humans as well as the dogs.
|11-13-2012 12:29 PM|
Originally Posted by onyx'girl View Post
|11-13-2012 12:12 PM|
Now that I'll be getting more hours/money, I'll be able to put more titles on Ozzy. I need to get his CGC. I know it's not a title or worth much really, but it's something. I'm also going to look into putting him onto agility.
When I get my GSD, I'll probably do more since she'll have AKC registration and I'll have more options.
When I visited the breeder, I asked her about local SchH clubsand she said she wouldn't recommend any of them. :/
|11-12-2012 07:33 PM|
You have to go out and start titling your dog and maybe get another one and title that one. Titles and experience is what sells a trainer.
You can usually find seminars listed on the bulletin boards at the local dog schools and on the local obedience dog internet lists.
|11-12-2012 07:25 PM|
I don't think dog training is something you (generic you) can just decide to become. It's not something you can take a class in, and then hang a shingle as a "Certified Dog Trainer." Some people are naturally good at training dogs but can't work with people. Some can work with people and are really good at the sales end of things, but not so good with the dogs! And often the certification isn't worth a whole lot when it comes to real hands on training. Tho I do know that lack of actual knowledge doesn't stop everyone....
There's a woman who lives behind one of my groom clients, she has a gaggle of schipperkes. (aka little black devils) She wanted me to "just" clip their nails for her.....she couldn't do it, her dogs wouldn't "let" her. But she also didn't want to pay what I wanted to charge, so I declined.
A few months later I heard rumors that she is now a certified dog trainer. Sure enough, she had her van wrapped with a fancy logo and business name. From what I've heard her dogs still won't "let" her clip their nails.
|11-12-2012 04:52 PM|
Originally Posted by onyx'girl View Post
|11-12-2012 04:49 PM|
One of the clubs in my area has a few of the trainers getting together and bringing in people to hold workshops(then they fill the working spots with people who are committed handlers). If you can get involved with some actual trainers for mentoring, that would be the best way to get your foot in the door. I've learned so much just by hanging out with the 'professional' trainers and seeing their techniques. And they all have different styles and methods of course, but they get along with each other!!
|11-12-2012 04:38 PM|
Remember that training dogs is training their handlers as well...so if you aren't that into people, it may be frustrating and not so rewarding.
I pay $30 a session for private lessons. We do whatever I want to work on and my trainer is knowledgeable in competitive obedience, retrieves, e-collar, field & water retrieve/hunt work. She goes to training too, so pays to learn from people who have more experience than her. Always going to seminars to learn more. She isn't versed in agility foundation, and is learning that as well, but she knows she wouldn't be a good instructor for teaching agility.
Trainers get most of their business word of mouth so certification usually isn't important. Most have their niches too...and we all know who is the better agility, herding, obedience, behavioral instructors just from their reputations.
I know a person who paid for online training/certifying and she runs a dog day care and holds beginners training classes. Not someone I'd want instruction from, though she is a nice person and probably does help w/ the pet crowd, but she would be way over her head with behavior modification or other training techniques.
There is a training business in my area that has extremely high pricing, no facility(they go to day cares, dog parks and feed stores to hold their classes or go to private homes) Because of the high cost, people probably feel they are great, and I bet they are busy because 'you pay for what you get'!
I wonder if it is their marketing or if they are really worth what they charge....I'll never know.
|11-12-2012 04:15 PM|
I also would like to go down the dog training path someday. I would start with earning my KPA-CTP and then finding a local trainer to mentor under. I'll have to save up a small fortune first since dog trainers make just about nothing. I think I'd primarily only be interested in teaching agility though, to be honest. Maybe I should just keep my day job...
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