easiest dog sport title... - Page 3

martemchik · 09-12-2012, 12:11 AM

GMOTCH...crazyness...I just got to watch some fantastic dogs work at our club's trial this weekend and even the best ones mess up. The dog that won high in trial on Saturday, NQ'd on Sunday because she sat up during the out of sight down in Open class. A SchH3 dog NQ'd on Saturday in Open because she missed a jump. AKC obedience gets really difficult really quickly because of all the ways you can NQ. I mean...you can do all the exercises and then the dog sits up during the down and that's it, bye bye leg.

Can't imagine having to score over 195 in each trial...your dog has to be amazing. I mean there are judges that are just going to tick you for anything. A little lag in a heel, a sit that's not quite straight, a front that's not quite front enough. 5 points can go really fast. Then the high in trial part...what if you run into a really great dog that weekend and get beat out for that...you score 195s and still lose...

For actual titles I'd say RN is really really really easy. Once you get to UD or SchH 3 it must be really difficult. As many NQs as I saw this weekend, can't imagine doing a UDX. I'll give the props to SchH 3 for training, but you only have to do it all once at a trial...and of course there are 3 phases to it. But a UDX is just a pain in my opinion (hopefully I'll get one lol).

msvette2u · 09-12-2012, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Konotashi

Also, dock diving.

At a flyball tournament there was all kinds of other stuff going on, and someone on my team (she has a lab) took her over to the dock diving and got a title or two over there. She'd never done any kind of training with her, just decided to give it a shot.

This is what I would have said, too - all the dog has to do is jump in the water.
Well it has to swim, not sink

angelas · 09-12-2012, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by martemchik

GMOTCH...crazyness...

The CKC also has the GCH (Grand Champion) and I've heard talk of adding a GCHX (Grand Champion Excellent). Their trying to keep people competing after they get the CH.

And yes, in one trial she blew 4 points by not sitting on two fronts and her heeling was a little wide and cost her 1.5 points.

She's also from Calgary and says in that area it's possible to get a 200 and still not get HIT, but she can come to SK and rack up HITs with scores in the 180s.

Packen · 09-12-2012, 12:47 AM

SchH titles are easy, I hear KNPV titles are hard but have never tried KNPV myself so just hearsay!

elisabeth_00117 · 09-12-2012, 01:08 AM

SchH training is easy - with the right dog - but finding a place to train regularly IS the difficult part!

VonKromeHaus · 09-12-2012, 01:20 AM

Dock diving and doing WELL at it is a lot harder than what people think. The dog needs to be properly conditioned and trained to track the toy, regulate their strides, have confidence etc.

I love seeing people who do NOTHING with their dogs knock sports by saying it's easy....if they are so easy...put your monies where your mouth is and ante up!!

I do find some sports easier than others, but training venues have a lot to do with that.

Tiffseagles · 09-12-2012, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by VonKromeHaus

Dock diving and doing WELL at it is a lot harder than what people think. The dog needs to be properly conditioned and trained to track the toy, regulate their strides, have confidence etc.

This is true!

And the handler has to work on the timing of the release of the toy and has to have a good throw or even the best dog won't be jumping very well.

blackshep · 09-19-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by selzer

10. Supervised Separation: You tell your dog to sit or down, and hand the leash over to a stranger, and then leave the sight of the dog, usually a room, but we have hid behind cars too. They time it and call you back after 3 minutes. Your dog does not have to stay in position, but he cannot whine incessantly and he cannot maul the holder or anyone else. Pass.

Ugh, my dog would totally fail at this part, she freaks if I hand her off to someone. I have no idea how to fix it, we do it all the time and she freaks out each and every time!

BlackthornGSD · 09-19-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blackshep

Ugh, my dog would totally fail at this part, she freaks if I hand her off to someone. I have no idea how to fix it, we do it all the time and she freaks out each and every time!

Start by treating it like a stay instead of her worrying about someone else holding her--she has to be responsible for staying.

blackshep · 09-21-2012, 10:38 AM

She's good at stays, it's just if someone is holding her back she goes bananas. Do you mean if they hold her on a loose leash and I tell her to stay? That might be worth a try...it's frustrating! She's so good about almost everything!

Thanks for that suggestion, I'm going to try it.

09-12-2012, 12:11 AM	#21 (permalink)
martemchik Knighted Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,552	GMOTCH...crazyness...I just got to watch some fantastic dogs work at our club's trial this weekend and even the best ones mess up. The dog that won high in trial on Saturday, NQ'd on Sunday because she sat up during the out of sight down in Open class. A SchH3 dog NQ'd on Saturday in Open because she missed a jump. AKC obedience gets really difficult really quickly because of all the ways you can NQ. I mean...you can do all the exercises and then the dog sits up during the down and that's it, bye bye leg. Can't imagine having to score over 195 in each trial...your dog has to be amazing. I mean there are judges that are just going to tick you for anything. A little lag in a heel, a sit that's not quite straight, a front that's not quite front enough. 5 points can go really fast. Then the high in trial part...what if you run into a really great dog that weekend and get beat out for that...you score 195s and still lose... For actual titles I'd say RN is really really really easy. Once you get to UD or SchH 3 it must be really difficult. As many NQs as I saw this weekend, can't imagine doing a UDX. I'll give the props to SchH 3 for training, but you only have to do it all once at a trial...and of course there are 3 phases to it. But a UDX is just a pain in my opinion (hopefully I'll get one lol). __________________ Rooney CD RE TC HIC 7/10

09-12-2012, 12:47 AM	#24 (permalink)
Packen Master Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 676	SchH titles are easy, I hear KNPV titles are hard but have never tried KNPV myself so just hearsay! __________________ Gnash von den Sportwaffen IPO3x2, AD, HOT Brimwylf Creasy

09-12-2012, 01:08 AM	#25 (permalink)
elisabeth_00117 Crowned Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Posts: 8,416	SchH training is easy - with the right dog - but finding a place to train regularly IS the difficult part! __________________ Battleborn Hundesport K-W German Shepherd Club

09-12-2012, 01:20 AM	#26 (permalink)
VonKromeHaus Master Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: kennewick,WA Posts: 625	Dock diving and doing WELL at it is a lot harder than what people think. The dog needs to be properly conditioned and trained to track the toy, regulate their strides, have confidence etc. I love seeing people who do NOTHING with their dogs knock sports by saying it's easy....if they are so easy...put your monies where your mouth is and ante up!! I do find some sports easier than others, but training venues have a lot to do with that. __________________ Tululajhs Red Chrome Kahpone~AST/APBT~CGC TT BH~RIP Osyrius SilverChrome GTOVonMarionHaus~GSD~CGC DDJ RN WBBs BleauChromeLady of TheCopa~APBT~STARR CGC

09-21-2012, 10:38 AM	#30 (permalink)
blackshep Master Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 876	She's good at stays, it's just if someone is holding her back she goes bananas. Do you mean if they hold her on a loose leash and I tell her to stay? That might be worth a try...it's frustrating! She's so good about almost everything! Thanks for that suggestion, I'm going to try it.

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