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I've been doing it with Yukon for two days now and trying to use the food approach.
He's quite determined.

So those that are doing it a little longer, what ya'll think?
What can I do? How many boxes? Anything else than just boxes? How long should I use the boxes before I use something else?

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He really likes doing it, literally enjoying it and picks it up quite fast but I don't want to rush it.

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I've been doing it with Yukon for two days now and trying to use the food approach.
He's quite determined.

So those that are doing it a little longer, what ya'll think?
What can I do? How many boxes? Anything else than just boxes? How long should I use the boxes before I use something else?

Yukon doing a little Nosework - YouTube

He really likes doing it, literally enjoying it and picks it up quite fast but I don't want to rush it.
We did two sessions with just boxes (an hour long class, probably 4 searches each + some time at home) before we moved to hiding in other objects. during the second session we worked on hiding treats in clear pastic tupperware with holes in the lid for scent to seep out, to transition them to searching for that in other areas, instead of putting treats in a pile of towels, etc. Then third week started hiding that NEAR the boxes, in towels, under tables, etc. Third week we got rid of the boxes and hid in kitchen places, etc. Fourth week we were doing vehicle searches.

Frag did this stuff as a puppy (I trained him) so he had a better idea of what was going on, but if Yukon is picking it up quick, there's no harm in trying to transition a little quicker or doing harder hides. You can always move closer to the hide to help him & then move back a step in the training process if he doesn't get it and you're moving too fast. Frag climbed a ladder to find a hide in our second week of classes. XD

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What behaviors are acceptable as an "alert"? Or what do most folks teach as an alert?

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From what my trainer has told us, any behavior is acceptable as an alert, the handler just has to be able to recognize it and in a competition, say "Yep, my dog found it right here!" or "Nope, this room has nothing!"

Frag's "alert" so far (has not been developed much yet) is backing off of a scent and either sitting/looking at me, or just turning at looking at me. I can tell when he has a scent, so it's easy to know after I see him catch a wiff if he's serious when he stops and looks at me.

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I have a question on the nosework. Am I correct in the understanding that the odors being used are odors such perfumed oils and such? Cannot find the rules.....
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I have a question on the nosework. Am I correct in the understanding that the odors being used are odors such perfumed oils and such? Cannot find the rules.....
The three oils used are Birch, Anise, and Clove. Never anything else. These are the three that the dog has to be able to recognize and distinguish between.

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gotcha. awesome. Something for you all to ponder. Using any other odor to start the dog's training is wasting effort. If you are using a toy reward, use the target odor with the toy for imprinting. You all can train your dogs the exact way that we train our narc,bomb and cadaver dogs. Personally,I would also put some kind of definitive alert on the dog.
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gotcha. awesome. Something for you all to ponder. Using any other odor to start the dog's training is wasting effort. If you are using a toy reward, use the target odor with the toy for imprinting. You all can train your dogs the exact way that we train our narc,bomb and cadaver dogs. Personally,I would also put some kind of definitive alert on the dog.
Everyone does use definitive alerts for their dogs. They're all just different.

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Well, FYI, standing and looking at you can cause you problems. I would suggest going with the sit if you want passive. Stopping and looking back in distracting venues could be misinterpreted by you. A sit /stare at source would be easy to you to do Also,FYI for those training in this,you will be faced with the same maintenance training issues that we cops have with regard to false alerts .
Aggressive alert is also easy to train and maintain
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