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01-09-2012, 10:12 PM
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01-10-2012, 01:30 PM
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Veterinary Clinical Pharmacology Lab at Washington State University states that Ivermectin will cause neurological toxicity in dogs that are homozygous for the MDR1 mutation. We do not have proof that Pasha experienced the MDR1 mutation but he was not tested for this either. Before even thinking about attempting to do this injection on Pasha, the doctor should have taken the precautions and simply test him for this mutation. According to them, 10% of the tested German Shepherds showed signs of MDR1 mutation.
http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-vcpl/breeds.aspx http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-VCPL/drugs.aspx http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-vcpl/ |
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01-10-2012, 01:35 PM
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Yes it can be toxic to dogs w/the MDR1 mutation - but we've been saying that while it "could" cause problems (might not, too, in 90% of cases in fact) the odds are it was the dip.
The dip is extremely - EXTREMELY toxic to even adults with no other health issues. How do you think an 8 week old puppy would handle it? Especially since the dip is not recommended for puppies under 12 weeks? The vet deliberately used a dip on an 8 week old that was not that badly infected, there were safer things to do and even a puppy of 8 weeks can tolerate ivermectin - provided they don't have the mutation. Not to mention its been discontinued for use in dogs - http://www.drugs.com/vet/vet-kem-par...ackrubber.html Due to the toxicity. Read the symptoms of toxicity on it. Quote:
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Ruger v. Sunnyside Stray 4-11-11 Last edited by msvette2u; 01-10-2012 at 01:39 PM. |
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01-10-2012, 01:45 PM
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I just wanted to pop back in here and say that nobody on here is blaming you for what happened, I'm sure you are blaming yourself, but please do not!
I recently (against my better judgement) put a dog on a cardiac med that was prescribed by a vet we don't usually visit. It could have killed her and may in fact have made her heart worse than before she was on it. The vet did not tell me much about it and I should have just asked more, but we often just blindly rely on our vet's advice, after all, they are the ones that went to school. Most the time it turns out well - after all, they are the ones who went to school, not us  But sometimes, mistakes happen - just like with human doctors, mistakes happen. The only thing, I'd reiterate, like you haven't heard it enough, either present in writing what happened with your puppy and/or report it to your state veterinary board.
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01-10-2012, 06:05 PM
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My aussie is an MDR1 dog with a mutant/mutant reading
 It's not your fault, most people have never even heard of the mdr1 gene, let alone that gsd's can have it,, 1/3 of all aussies test out for it in one form or another. My vets didn't know about the percentage in aussies when I first got her, they usually associate it with collies,shelties..
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01-10-2012, 10:04 PM
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This has to be one of the most unfortunate & sad posts I’ve read on this forum.
Pasha!, I’m so sorry for the loss of your sweet puppy.
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01-10-2012, 10:09 PM
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02-19-2012, 04:06 PM
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It took Dr. Shelli Skeels of Montville Animal Hospital 23 days after she came back from her "vacation" to send us a lousy letter with a brochure saying how to deal with a dead dog's grief.
This is after I sent a letter myself and called 3 times with no returned calls. Completely humiliating.. I will do whatever is necessary to bad mouth her business. She is the one who needs a brochure on how to deal with patient's grief. Any feedback is appreciated. |
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