Buying a protection trained dog?

Chicagocanine · 10-16-2008, 10:10 PM

I got a message from someone looking for a home for a dog (after posting on a local sporting forum.) He is protection trained and I was wondering if I should be wary of purchasing a trained dog? From what the owner has told me he seems like a very stable good dog and the owner is a trainer.

Packen · 10-16-2008, 10:34 PM

Be very careful if you do not know the sport. Safest route would be to get a video of the dog working and show it to someone who knows (maybe your local schutzhund training director) for opinion, or post here.

**Lauri & The Gang** · 10-16-2008, 10:49 PM

Are they talking protection trained as in Personal Protection or sport trained?

Big difference.

Barb E · 10-16-2008, 11:09 PM

Personally I wouldn't buy a "protection trained" dog as a pet.

**Chris Wild** · 10-17-2008, 09:06 AM

Really depends on what they mean by "protection trained".

Could be for sport like SchH, ring, SDA, etc...

Could be retired K9 or washed out K9.

Could be well trained PPD.

Could be poorly trained PPD.

Could be a dog who just barks on command.

Could be a dangerous nervebag that barks and lunges all the time and an ignorant owner thinks that makes the dog "protective" and he must have been trained for it.

Really no way to answer without knowing their definition of protection trained.

lcht2 · 10-17-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted By: PackenBe very careful if you do not know the sport. Safest route would be to get a video of the dog working and show it to someone who knows (maybe your local schutzhund training director) for opinion, or post here.

agree

Phazewolf · 10-20-2008, 12:24 AM

Here is a queston. Why is he getting rid of the dog in the first place? If I have spent that much time and cash to train a dog correctly for something like protection there would have too be a really good reason for me want to (dump) sell it to someone else.

Chicagocanine · 10-20-2008, 06:25 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys! I decided not to adopt this dog because I would not be able to do animal-assisted therapy with him. The therapy org. does not allow protection trained dogs.

lcht2 · 10-20-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted By: PhazewolfHere is a queston. Why is he getting rid of the dog in the first place? If I have spent that much time and cash to train a dog correctly for something like protection there would have too be a really good reason for me want to (dump) sell it to someone else.

maybe he trained it to be sold as a PPD.

...worth more $$ to some

KristinEnn · 10-20-2008, 09:04 PM

Our boy is trained in personal protection but not schH.
He is very freindly and mellow boy, hubby only turns him on when needed. He doesnt bite random people, he has been properly socialized and trained.. thousands of dollars in training in our dogs but to us its worth every penny.
I know you decided not to adopt but definately if the dog is trained in protection of any kind you would need to educate yourself on how to handle and on going traing for the dog. Training never ends.
I also agree that a protection dog may not be the best idea for a therapy dog.

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Packen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 479	Re: Buying a protection trained dog? Be very careful if you do not know the sport. Safest route would be to get a video of the dog working and show it to someone who knows (maybe your local schutzhund training director) for opinion, or post here. __________________ Gnash von den Sportwaffen IPO3x2, AD, HOT Brimwylf Creasy

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10-17-2008, 09:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
Chris Wild Administrator & Alpha Bitch of the Wild Bunch Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 12,604	Re: Buying a protection trained dog? Really depends on what they mean by "protection trained". Could be for sport like SchH, ring, SDA, etc... Could be retired K9 or washed out K9. Could be well trained PPD. Could be poorly trained PPD. Could be a dog who just barks on command. Could be a dangerous nervebag that barks and lunges all the time and an ignorant owner thinks that makes the dog "protective" and he must have been trained for it. Really no way to answer without knowing their definition of protection trained. __________________ *Wildhaus Kennels* Kaiser ~ SchH3 CGC TDI (HOT) Raven ~ SchH3 AWD2 PD1 P1 PA T1 UCD URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Della ~ SchHA TR1 PD1 P1 PA T1 URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Wulf ~ SchH1 PD1 P1 T1 URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Heidi ~ BH CD UCD RN URO1 (B/HOT) Jazz ~ Superpup In Training

10-20-2008, 12:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
Phazewolf Master Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Posts: 642	Re: Buying a protection trained dog? Here is a queston. Why is he getting rid of the dog in the first place? If I have spent that much time and cash to train a dog correctly for something like protection there would have too be a really good reason for me want to (dump) sell it to someone else.

10-20-2008, 06:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
Chicagocanine Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,518	Re: Buying a protection trained dog? Thanks for the feedback guys! I decided not to adopt this dog because I would not be able to do animal-assisted therapy with him. The therapy org. does not allow protection trained dogs. __________________ Chicago Canine Bianca HIC CGC TT (GSD)

10-20-2008, 09:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
KristinEnn Master Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Washington State Posts: 745	Re: Buying a protection trained dog? Our boy is trained in personal protection but not schH. He is very freindly and mellow boy, hubby only turns him on when needed. He doesnt bite random people, he has been properly socialized and trained.. thousands of dollars in training in our dogs but to us its worth every penny. I know you decided not to adopt but definately if the dog is trained in protection of any kind you would need to educate yourself on how to handle and on going traing for the dog. Training never ends. I also agree that a protection dog may not be the best idea for a therapy dog. __________________ Kristin ------- I love my babies, two GSDs Canyoncrest Kahn 5/22/06 and Canyoncrest Bella 8/1/08 , and My rescued girl Mika Husky Rott mix 9/1/05.

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