Personal Protection Dog and usefulness?

LovemyEli · 10-04-2011, 11:20 PM

Hi all,

How many of you have personal protection dogs and have actually had to use them in a situation? Given you are not a cop, or a jeweler etc... just in a normal situation.

My boy is being trained as a personal protection dog, but it has become more of a sport to me. Just curious of the stories on here....

Germanshepherdlova · 10-05-2011, 12:12 AM

This didn't happen to me but to someone who lives near me. She was out walking her dog the other night and a man came up to her with the intention of robbing her. She told him to back away from her because if he touched her, her dog would attack him. He said, "Lady I'm not scared of your stupid dog." He then proceeded to grab her, the dog reacted instantly and bit him in the arm. The man took off, police have asked the hospital that if a man meeting his description shows up at the hospital to get their arm stitched up to notify them right away.

Bet he's scared of dogs now.

woody · 10-10-2011, 05:14 PM

I find the idea of a personal protection dog a bit scary. Not sure about the laws in the US but I suspect over here even if your dog bit someone while protecting you it could still end up being put down unless it was a situation where somebody broke into your home.

BR870 · 10-10-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by woody

I find the idea of a personal protection dog a bit scary. Not sure about the laws in the US but I suspect over here even if your dog bit someone while protecting you it could still end up being put down unless it was a situation where somebody broke into your home.

And this friends is the problem with the world. We've gotta protect the poor "disenfranchised" criminals from those evil law abiding citizens...

Freestep · 10-10-2011, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by woody

I find the idea of a personal protection dog a bit scary. Not sure about the laws in the US but I suspect over here even if your dog bit someone while protecting you it could still end up being put down unless it was a situation where somebody broke into your home.

It is scary. I used to think training for PP was a good idea, until I realized the scope of liability involved. It was explained to me that PP training is more about training the dog to OUT than to BITE, which makes sense--but regardless, the law would look at it as knowingly harboring a vicious animal.

Now I just have to hope that, if I'm ever in a situation that would warrant it, my dog would instinctively protect without any training.

BR870 · 10-10-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Freestep

It is scary. I used to think training for PP was a good idea, until I realized the scope of liability involved. It was explained to me that PP training is more about training the dog to OUT than to BITE, which makes sense--but regardless, the law would look at it as knowingly harboring a vicious animal.

Now I just have to hope that, if I'm ever in a situation that would warrant it, my dog would instinctively protect without any training.

When the chips are down you will not rise to the occasion, you will fall back on your training...

Lilie · 10-10-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BR870

When the chips are down you will not rise to the occasion, you will fall back on your training...

Ohhh, I like that very much!

HecklingGopher · 10-10-2011, 06:30 PM

I have a "Personal Protection" dog. Here is my view on it. If someone wants to rob me, they are going to get attacked. Technically, according to the eyes of the law, yes, I may be harboring a viscous animal. However, it really depends on the area you live in. I believe that if my dog attacked a would be robber, animal control and police would overlook my dog biting them. Many of the people I train with are LEOs to begin with.

Think about how many GSDs are in the sport of Schunzthund. Those dogs are trained to bite on command. You don't hear of those dogs being put down because they protected their owner from an attack. I think many people would cry foul if one of these dogs were put down because a dog attacked a criminal on a walk.

Also, for those with CWP's, I think a non-lethal method of dealing with a would be robber would be the more "humane" method of dealing with those members of our society. Id rather my dog take a couple bullets than me taking a couple while im trying to fidget out a gun from under my shirt.

Surely, its sticky, but I'll let my dog do its work before I worry about the law.

Emoore · 10-10-2011, 06:38 PM

In the U.S., it's not so much an issue of what happens if your dog bites a bad guy or robber, it's more an issue of if your dog bites a neighbor kid who jumped into your yard to get his baseball, or your Great-Aunt Thelma who has dementia and stopped by for a surprise visit at 3 in the morning, or the person who was trying to visit your neighbor and accidentally ended up on your property by mistake.

In those situations, having a bite-trained dog would not only cause the dog to be euthanized, but could also result in criminal negligence charges for the owner as well.

hps · 10-10-2011, 06:48 PM

We (family) have gotten ourselves a personel protection GSD. To me its like carrying a pers. protection handgun, knowing how and when to use this protection is the key. Always have your cell phone and be the first to make the call to law enforcement is the KEY!! If the crimmnal makes the call first their gonna be lookin for the person with the BAD dog, If the person with the pers. pertection GSD is the first to call their gonna be looking for the crimnal with a chewed up arm or face that tried to rob or harm me or my family.

10-04-2011, 11:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
LovemyEli Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: California Posts: 145	Personal Protection Dog and usefulness? Hi all, How many of you have personal protection dogs and have actually had to use them in a situation? Given you are not a cop, or a jeweler etc... just in a normal situation. My boy is being trained as a personal protection dog, but it has become more of a sport to me. Just curious of the stories on here.... __________________ Eli Von Der Pfalz - GSD - DOB 8/7/2010 Sierra - GSD Mix - DOB 12/26/2001

10-05-2011, 12:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
Germanshepherdlova Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: USA Posts: 2,935	This didn't happen to me but to someone who lives near me. She was out walking her dog the other night and a man came up to her with the intention of robbing her. She told him to back away from her because if he touched her, her dog would attack him. He said, "Lady I'm not scared of your stupid dog." He then proceeded to grab her, the dog reacted instantly and bit him in the arm. The man took off, police have asked the hospital that if a man meeting his description shows up at the hospital to get their arm stitched up to notify them right away. Bet he's scared of dogs now. __________________ You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Germa...96574693743892

10-10-2011, 06:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Emoore Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North DFW, TX Posts: 9,215	In the U.S., it's not so much an issue of what happens if your dog bites a bad guy or robber, it's more an issue of if your dog bites a neighbor kid who jumped into your yard to get his baseball, or your Great-Aunt Thelma who has dementia and stopped by for a surprise visit at 3 in the morning, or the person who was trying to visit your neighbor and accidentally ended up on your property by mistake. In those situations, having a bite-trained dog would not only cause the dog to be euthanized, but could also result in criminal negligence charges for the owner as well. __________________ Rocky vom Backyard- 10 years young Kopper vom Felssclucht Bach - 17 months At the Bridge: Cash van der Animal Shelter 2006-2010

10-10-2011, 05:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
woody Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 64	I find the idea of a personal protection dog a bit scary. Not sure about the laws in the US but I suspect over here even if your dog bit someone while protecting you it could still end up being put down unless it was a situation where somebody broke into your home.

10-10-2011, 06:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
HecklingGopher New Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Central Florida Posts: 14	I have a "Personal Protection" dog. Here is my view on it. If someone wants to rob me, they are going to get attacked. Technically, according to the eyes of the law, yes, I may be harboring a viscous animal. However, it really depends on the area you live in. I believe that if my dog attacked a would be robber, animal control and police would overlook my dog biting them. Many of the people I train with are LEOs to begin with. Think about how many GSDs are in the sport of Schunzthund. Those dogs are trained to bite on command. You don't hear of those dogs being put down because they protected their owner from an attack. I think many people would cry foul if one of these dogs were put down because a dog attacked a criminal on a walk. Also, for those with CWP's, I think a non-lethal method of dealing with a would be robber would be the more "humane" method of dealing with those members of our society. Id rather my dog take a couple bullets than me taking a couple while im trying to fidget out a gun from under my shirt. Surely, its sticky, but I'll let my dog do its work before I worry about the law.

10-10-2011, 06:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
hps Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indy Posts: 69	We (family) have gotten ourselves a personel protection GSD. To me its like carrying a pers. protection handgun, knowing how and when to use this protection is the key. Always have your cell phone and be the first to make the call to law enforcement is the KEY!! If the crimmnal makes the call first their gonna be lookin for the person with the BAD dog, If the person with the pers. pertection GSD is the first to call their gonna be looking for the crimnal with a chewed up arm or face that tried to rob or harm me or my family.

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