Chris - Page 6

**ladylaw203** · 02-04-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elisabeth_00117

Great looking dogs Cliff!

I would love love love to see a video if you have one? The pups is adorable as well!

I have a fondness for these lines as I have said before, like the Czech influence with the West lines, a broad statement I know.

Love to see what you are working on, feel like only so many people are working at breeding what the GSD should/is/was/can be!

Well in defense of some breeders out there the police market is a relatively small world in comparison to other markets. I breed dogs with police in mind as well as Sar. I only breed dogs with over the top ball drive,the drive,temperament and agility for the job. Naturally i am pretty picky where they go

However,the companion market is by far the largest and that calls for a healthy stable dog that does not have to have ball drive

cliffson1 · 02-04-2012, 02:59 PM

@ Christine, I know that Chuck, Chris's brother is in the U.S. ay Kreative Kennels im Calf. Don't know if he is for outside stud. I like the dam side of Chuck and Chris better than Sid. Also, Chris Wild has a female out of the same breeding that I will get a puppy from when she breeds her female.

elisabeth_00117 · 02-04-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ladylaw203

Well in defense of some breeders out there the police market is a relatively small world in comparison to other markets. I breed dogs with police in mind as well as Sar. I only breed dogs with over the top ball drive,the drive,temperament and agility for the job. Naturally i am pretty picky where they go

However,the companion market is by far the largest and that calls for a healthy stable dog that does not have to have ball drive

I too want the over the top drive that some do not need (for schH/herding/agility) but I get what you are saying.

**ladylaw203** · 02-04-2012, 03:20 PM

I hear ya. But I was referring to the high retrieve/hunt drive that we use for scent detector training. Not everyone needs the insatiable drive for the ball that we do. It is hard to find in gsds

elisabeth_00117 · 02-04-2012, 03:58 PM

I agree.

Ace952 · 02-06-2012, 11:33 AM

Chuck (Chris' brother) was at Kreative Kennels and was listed as a stud for awhile but was sold maybe 3 months ago? I had a friend who was going to bred to him but when her female came close to being in heat, they ended up selling him. She inquired about who the new owner was in hopes of breeding to him but never received a response back.

mysweetkaos · 02-06-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ladylaw203

I hear ya. But I was referring to the high retrieve/hunt drive that we use for scent detector training. Not everyone needs the insatiable drive for the ball that we do. It is hard to find in gsds

My husband grew up with labs....that is his only "real" complaint about our dogs....no ball drive, give them a squirrel and they're all over it, but who wants to chase a tennis ball

Next dog will definetely need to have some ball drive, just to keep my husband from trying to get us to get a lab

**ladylaw203** · 02-06-2012, 06:30 PM

I have retrievers too. Just dropped one off at hunt test trainer today

Well, there are lines with ball drive. I ONLY breed GSDs that have that and then we cross our fingers for the pups. That ball drive is a modern trait that we desire. Old Max did not know that we would be training them to find dope,bombs and human remains when he started the breed

02-04-2012, 03:20 PM	#54 (permalink)
ladylaw203 Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Beaumont,Texas Posts: 4,752	I hear ya. But I was referring to the high retrieve/hunt drive that we use for scent detector training. Not everyone needs the insatiable drive for the ball that we do. It is hard to find in gsds __________________ Renee Utley Port Authority Police KaroSkocickaSamotaZM,ZOP,ZPU,FPR,FPR,ZVV1,ZZZ,ZZP, RHE,ZM TART, IRO titled SAR dog ZVV1 Gabbi Mariko Bohemia ZVV1 Jessy Vikar www.nndda.org, Certifying official http://www.voneintzeshepherds.com

02-04-2012, 03:58 PM	#55 (permalink)
elisabeth_00117 Crowned Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Posts: 7,252	I agree. __________________ Battleborn Hundesport Wild Winds Archangel Raphael "Stark", HIC (2009-04-10) Wild Winds Zephyr "Zefra" (2011-04-15) *Beau* 03/08/97 to 06/07/10

02-06-2012, 06:30 PM	#58 (permalink)
ladylaw203 Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Beaumont,Texas Posts: 4,752	I have retrievers too. Just dropped one off at hunt test trainer today Well, there are lines with ball drive. I ONLY breed GSDs that have that and then we cross our fingers for the pups. That ball drive is a modern trait that we desire. Old Max did not know that we would be training them to find dope,bombs and human remains when he started the breed __________________ Renee Utley Port Authority Police KaroSkocickaSamotaZM,ZOP,ZPU,FPR,FPR,ZVV1,ZZZ,ZZP, RHE,ZM TART, IRO titled SAR dog ZVV1 Gabbi Mariko Bohemia ZVV1 Jessy Vikar www.nndda.org, Certifying official http://www.voneintzeshepherds.com

02-04-2012, 02:59 PM	#52 (permalink)
cliffson1 Knighted Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,929	@ Christine, I know that Chuck, Chris's brother is in the U.S. ay Kreative Kennels im Calf. Don't know if he is for outside stud. I like the dam side of Chuck and Chris better than Sid. Also, Chris Wild has a female out of the same breeding that I will get a puppy from when she breeds her female.

02-06-2012, 11:33 AM	#56 (permalink)
Ace952 Master Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 691	Chuck (Chris' brother) was at Kreative Kennels and was listed as a stud for awhile but was sold maybe 3 months ago? I had a friend who was going to bred to him but when her female came close to being in heat, they ended up selling him. She inquired about who the new owner was in hopes of breeding to him but never received a response back.

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