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Old 07-08-2014, 06:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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so im deciding to take my puppy to a school for obedience training.
i checked the place and i liked it and i checked the "classes" and all was gd.
i should schedule here in a month or so.
my idea of taking her there is that i dont wanna fail in training her at home by my self.
whos with scholl training and whos against?
any comment or tips would be appreciated thx
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Honestly, to be successful I recommend both. You always want to have a good home training regimen to constantly work on and improve behaviors and keep your dog happy with a job. But school classes are also helpful because they add distractions (other people and dogs, new environment, new tools) that can be hard to produce yourself in a controlled environment. I know I can't produce three to six other dogs that will stay within a workable distance from me at will. And it is even less likely that I can produce dogs that are also being worked with and therefore easier to proof around during starting training versus trying to proof around a random dog in a pet store that might have an owner that wants your dogs to "play" while you're just trying to proof training.

Plus having a trainer to work with gives you a second pair of eyes watching everything you do, and more importantly catching your mistakes.

I was working Kaiju on an agility course and he just kept going past an obstacle he was supposed to be jumping and I just could not figure out why on earth he was doing it. After having my trainer watch me a couple times, she pointed out that I was turning my feet at a different angle than my shoulders and from the tunnel view where Kaiju came out, I looked like I was oriented in a completely different direction - something that I probably only could have seen with a mirror.

So even for those very experienced in training, attending classes usually has a positive impact on your training. I'll be going through all these same classes again with the next dog I get, and I'm sure they'll still benefit me and I'll continue to learn a thing or two.
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Honestly, to be successful I recommend both. You always want to have a good home training regimen to constantly work on and improve behaviors and keep your dog happy with a job. But school classes are also helpful because they add distractions (other people and dogs, new environment, new tools) that can be hard to produce yourself in a controlled environment. I know I can't produce three to six other dogs that will stay within a workable distance from me at will. And it is even less likely that I can produce dogs that are also being worked with and therefore easier to proof around during starting training versus trying to proof around a random dog in a pet store that might have an owner that wants your dogs to "play" while you're just trying to proof training.

Plus having a trainer to work with gives you a second pair of eyes watching everything you do, and more importantly catching your mistakes.

I was working Kaiju on an agility course and he just kept going past an obstacle he was supposed to be jumping and I just could not figure out why on earth he was doing it. After having my trainer watch me a couple times, she pointed out that I was turning my feet at a different angle than my shoulders and from the tunnel view where Kaiju came out, I looked like I was oriented in a completely different direction - something that I probably only could have seen with a mirror.

So even for those very experienced in training, attending classes usually has a positive impact on your training. I'll be going through all these same classes again with the next dog I get, and I'm sure they'll still benefit me and I'll continue to learn a thing or two.

thx alot for the reply. of course ill continue trining at home but the thing is that at scholl would take 3 months and shes gonna have to stay there for all the period, and sure ill be visiting always but its just not the same to have her home
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Board and train is much different than going to class. Is there a reason you feel you need to send your pup away for training? Usually the handler is the one needing the training more than the dog.
Personally, I could never, ever send my dog away for obedience training. Part of the reason I get a dog is to work and build that bond...the journey to successful progress is something to be proud of, even if it is slooow and frustrating now and then.
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Oh, a board and train. I misunderstood what you meant by a "school". I say skip the board and train unless you have extenuating circumstances that truly prevent you from being there to train your dog. Work with your dog. Build your relationship with her through training and be the one she looks to for leadership. I'm not a fan of sending a dog to a board and train unless there are extreme circumstances that call for a dog to have intensive one on one training or a new environment to train in. And even then I question it.
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Board and train is much different than going to class. Is there a reason you feel you need to send your pup away for training? Usually the handler is the one needing the training more than the dog.
Personally, I could never, ever send my dog away for obedience training. Part of the reason I get a dog is to work and build that bond...the journey to successful progress is something to be proud of, even if it is slooow and frustrating now and then.
its my first puppy i got and im not expert in training at all. i watched and read alot of infos about training a gsd, but im still kinda afraid if it didnt worked out.

i searched for a trainer at home but sadly i didnt find any. i only found schools where u have to leave ur dog for 3-4 months.
the last one i found i found it the best as i visit my puppy and work with him daily but she still needs to stay there

thats why im a bit confused and not so happy about sending her away from me
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its my first puppy i got and im not expert in training at all. i watched and read alot of infos about training a gsd, but im still kinda afraid if it didnt worked out.

i searched for a trainer at home but sadly i didnt find any. i only found schools where u have to leave ur dog for 3-4 months.
the last one i found i found it the best as i visit my puppy and work with him daily but she still needs to stay there

thats why im a bit confused and not so happy about sending her away from me
Hmmm...maybe. I've never heard of a school set up that way. So she stays at the facility, but you come in daily and they teach you how to train her? Is there a particular reason she has to stay there instead of commuting into the school with you?
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Are you in Lebanon the country or a city called Lebanon?
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Are you in Lebanon the country or a city called Lebanon?
the country lebanon
and yeah i go there daily.
when i talked to the manager and the trainer they said that the visits will be daily but like 2-3 hours to spend with her and training.
she stays there so they can work with her more
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I don't think "working with her more" is the best way to go. How old will your puppy be during this board and train time?

Most pups can only handle small bursts of training. They should show you what to work on for homework, but not go overboard with it.
Training isn't something that should be done in a rushed way....set up a solid foundation is the most important thing, and be fair to the puppy.
A 24 hour period should not involve more than 2 hours of total training for an immature dog(and that is broken up into several short sessions), even then, it is way more than what many pups should have to deal with.
Getting the pup into the real world to explore, use its nose and learn about surfaces, sounds, scents,sights is way more informative in that sponge stage than repetitive obedience style training. Teaching rear end awareness, perchwork and focus is something I'd be looking into, recalls and engagement too.
You can usually find this info online.

Is there anyone local that has a littermate or pup that is about the same age as your pup, you could work together and spot each other
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