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LauraGSD 02-04-2014 08:34 PM

Laura keeps running away off leash, help!
 
Hi, this is my first question on his forum so please forgive me if I'm inexperienced. My German Shepherd, Laura, is an outside dog. She would be an inside dog but she was hit by a car in October and we have a lot of hardwood in our house that she slips on and gets really scared and hurt. Don't worry, she always has blankets, a bed, and a heat lamp on her in the garage during winter. Anyway, we let her out very often because she obviously cannot run around in a cage so we rarely put her on a leash. This off leash play time becomes problematic because SHE RUNS OFF! EVERY TIME! We have a very large backyard with woods in the back and she ALWAYS TAKES OFF IN THE WOODS AND COMES BACK WHEN SHE FEELS LIKE IT! I'll be running around with her and then she'll start taking off, I'll call her and say "Kommen!" (She's been trained in German since we got her at 6/mo) and she turns around and looks at me and just takes off again! Please help! It's very frustrating!

Loneforce 02-04-2014 08:38 PM

Maybe put a large fenced in area out there for her. It will work 2 ways. She won't go anywhere, and it will protect her from wild animals. http://www.dogkennelsuk.net/media/ca..._pet_run_1.jpg or a fence around property.

Twyla 02-04-2014 09:01 PM

Fence the backyard or a large roomy kennel.

No off leash until recall is solid. I have seen in Petsmart a 40 ft(?) lead that would give some room until a fence or kennel is done.

For the floors inside, have you tried non-slip rugs scattered around?

SuperG 02-04-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LauraGSD (Post 4966114)
Hi, this is my first question on his forum so please forgive me if I'm inexperienced. My German Shepherd, Laura, is an outside dog. She would be an inside dog but she was hit by a car in October and we have a lot of hardwood in our house that she slips on and gets really scared and hurt. Don't worry, she always has blankets, a bed, and a heat lamp on her in the garage during winter. Anyway, we let her out very often because she obviously cannot run around in a cage so we rarely put her on a leash. This off leash play time becomes problematic because SHE RUNS OFF! EVERY TIME! We have a very large backyard with woods in the back and she ALWAYS TAKES OFF IN THE WOODS AND COMES BACK WHEN SHE FEELS LIKE IT! I'll be running around with her and then she'll start taking off, I'll call her and say "Kommen!" (She's been trained in German since we got her at 6/mo) and she turns around and looks at me and just takes off again! Please help! It's very frustrating!


Yeah, no doubt that's a pisser....I hate it when a dog doesn't come back when called. The current shepherd I have is probably the best at the recall of the 3 which I have had over the years and it seems to be completely food/treat oriented...yeah I give her a ton of loving as well when she comes charging back inside the house. I wonder if you need to evaluate what she is coming back to??? If she is coming back to a place of confinement which is of no appeal compared to romping around in the back 40, I would do the same as your pooch.

My current GSD is my third and I have learned from my past failures...especially with the recall. From the very beginning, with my new pup, EVERY time I told her to "come" back into the house...it was a freakshow of treats and loving and I ALWAYS took opportunity of feeding time. Now, I can either say "come", "treat" or "are you hungry" and she comes a charging even if the neighbor's 3 dogs are out running the fence with my gal. I have a long way to go with my current shep but I have put a super premium on the recall....every time she comes to me when called she gets praise and/or treats..and I mean every time. I believe the process you have to undertake will involve consistency, repetition and a huge emphasis on a wonderful reason for your dog to want to return to you when called. Yes, I know there are folks in here who have more of a magic touch but what I have accomplished with my present pup is great but it has strictly been accomplished via praise and reward....she knows most anything she will get for coming when called is better than anything outside.....don't know if that is cheating but it sure has worked.

Good luck to you on your endeavor and I'm sure if you throw yourself into it and get your pooch to understand the best things in their world happens when they come when called...you will win the day.

SuperG

selzer 02-04-2014 09:27 PM

Your dog has already been hit by a car. You cannot let her off lead in an unfenced area until you have a good solid bond created by lots of training -- that is you training, not whoever had her before you.

Next, you need to learn how to train and command your dog. If you have not trained your dog to come, then you have no business giving that command, in German or English. Since someone did give her some training, it should be easier for you to train her into the commands. But there is more to it than using the word. For one thing, do not give that command unless you can enforce it, immiately.

Here's what you do. Reach in your pocket and get a delicious tid bit, piece of gooey hot dog, and don't say, COME. Call her name, if she comes, give her the treat. Good Girl! She needs to know that coming to you is a good thing. NEVER, EVER call her to you to berate her or punish her, because all you will do is punish for coming. That will teach her not to come to you.

Now, when she is coming, good, using just the name, add in your praise for coming, Good Come. Good Girl. Now, when you go about training the COME command, you need to have a line her. Just start when you are walking her, back up and call her, COME, She turns and comes, Good Girl, add a SIT, and make sure that she sits close enough for you to take the collar. Treat when she sits. When she comes very well from short distances, slowly increase the distance, and eventually, you will be phasing out the treats. ALWAYS praise. Praise is free, you can ramp it up, or give light praise if you need her to maintain an even keel. But once she is doing very well from a good distance (long line). Then you can start treating only ever third come, or only for the best sit front, or only for the quickest comes.

It is called training. Even if the dog has been trained previously, they have to be trained to your style, you have to get repoir with the dog. The dog needs to understand that she needs to do what you say. And if you give her commands that you cannot immediately reinforce, you are training her to blow you off.

LauraGSD 02-06-2014 01:03 PM

To Selzar
 
We've had her since she was six months, she is two now. Since the day we got her, we've trained her in German. No one has previously trained her because we rescued her so we were her first trainers and she was with us when she was hit, I was the one who helped her recover. She knows what come/kommen means and also knows many other commands in German like sit, stay, lay down, get up, and search, she does all of these commands for her treats, just refuses to listen when there are no treats involved or when she is outside. Because I am only 13, I'm not the dominant male. My father was the dominant male and the one who rescued her and he is been um...incarcerated so I am the only male here and she doesn't listen to me too well.

Msmaria 02-06-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Twyla (Post 4966258)
Fence the backyard or a large roomy kennel.

No off leash until recall is solid. I have seen in Petsmart a 40 ft(?) lead that would give some room until a fence or kennel is done.

For the floors inside, have you tried non-slip rugs scattered around?


i use the 40 ft lead for my maltipoo that refuses to come when called (outside) Amazon has a 50 ft leash if you have the room. Just watch out for tangles and them running around you, ive tripped manyof times..lol

LauraGSD 02-06-2014 01:11 PM

Our yard is way too big to have a fence around. Also, my father is in prison and I'm only 13, no way I can do it.

LauraGSD 02-06-2014 01:13 PM

We've had her since she was six months, she is two now. Since the day we got her, we've trained her in German. No one has previously trained her because we rescued her so we were her first trainers and she was with us when she was hit, I was the one who helped her recover. She knows what come/kommen means and also knows many other commands in German like sit, stay, lay down, get up, and search, she does all of these commands for her treats, just refuses to listen when there are no treats involved or when she is outside. Because I am only 13, I'm not the dominant male. My father was the dominant male and the one who rescued her and he is been um...incarcerated so I am the only male here and she doesn't listen to me too well.

blackshep 02-06-2014 01:16 PM

You cannot let her off leash, period.

Get a training line and work on your recall. Have you been to obedience classes? Maybe that is something you can look into?

A kennel is another good idea, but please don't let her off leash until your recall is rock solid.


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