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wyoung2153 08-21-2014 02:27 PM

I need more ideas!! and how to teaching him to hold things and
 
OK so in the last few days I have been doing more OB with Titan than usual and realized I have become bored with it.. lol if I'm bored with it, I'm sure he is too.. It's the same stuff over and over again.. nothing new.. well one new thing, that I'm sure is getting old. lol.

Anyways.. I always see videos or pictures of people's dog's holding things in their mouth? Whether it's the "dumbell" for sport or just somethign fun, I think it would be fun to teach Titan but I have absolutely no idea where to start. He won't hold anything in his mouth for more than it takes to bring it to me. Tried to get him to hold one of his toys last night and he wouldn't take it from me. He just wanted me to throw it. If he does take it, he will take it and drop it immediately for me to throw.. :help:

Second.. anyone have any fun training activities for us that we can do at home? Currently we do all the basics, sit, down, stay, recall, heel, down mid heel, down mid recall, wait on the way to retrieve, eyes, go around, stand, up, touch, crawl, play dead, and I'm sure I am forgetting something. We do games too, "find it" is a big one. Inside and outside, day and night. "Which hand," is another. I just need more ideas for stuff/training for him... anyone care to share?

EDIT: I forgot to mention that our training sessions are usually toy reward, there is play mixed in too.

Gib_laut 08-21-2014 02:49 PM

Take the dog to a Schutzhund club

Not only will you learn new things but you'll be going back and reworking things the dog already knows because suddenly you're now demanding precision and focus

wyoung2153 08-21-2014 02:53 PM

If we had one that was closer than 1.5 hrs.. I so would. I used to train SAR but when I moved it became a 1.5 hr drive and I just can't do that every week.

Steve Strom 08-21-2014 03:07 PM

Just for some fun Whitney, and in real general terms, you put something in his mouth and you don't exactly take it from his mouth, but you let him release it into your hand. Patiently and calm, put it in his mouth, calmly praise, calmly have him release it. The putting it in his mouth helps show him he has to do it. Reward him calmly as soon as he releases it, move him around to relieve the stress.

Later on you expand it to him being allowed to take it, but you want to spend a lot of time on the initial place and hold. Thats kind of a thumbnail version from part of Ivan B's retrieve.

Gib_laut 08-21-2014 03:15 PM

For the hold I would just stick the item into his mouth and physically hold it shut. The moment he stops fighting immediately mark and reward. Then you slowly add time to him holding still. Then you add being able to take your hands away and him holding it himself. Then you add just saying hold and he bites down on the item without your help.

Break and down into steps. Mark and reward each step.

wyoung2153 08-21-2014 03:15 PM

Oh cool. Thank you both! Should I start with a certain object? should I use a toy he loves?

Steve Strom 08-21-2014 03:28 PM

Not something he loves. Part of showing him he has to is using something he doesnt love. PVC, a dowell, pipe. I got the idea to not correct or hold his mouth closed when he has something in it. I used to, but I saw this and then started looking into the idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPRvrBAbqWk

A little pop under the chin if he drops it or later on when I'm actually trying to slip it from his mouth.

Lilie 08-21-2014 03:31 PM

I did basically what Steve explained. But my dog knows the wait command. I would calmly say 'wait' (and used a hand signal) and then when I released him, he dropped the object (it was his toys). I'm not training him for sport - I'm just adding more useless parlor tricks to his resume. We are now working on "Take it to....."

wyoung2153 08-21-2014 03:35 PM

So if he won't take it.. how do I get him to? Last night, he would not even put the toy in his mouth at all. I wonder if it was because I had treats in the other hand..

wyoung2153 08-21-2014 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilie (Post 5931529)
I did basically what Steve explained. But my dog knows the wait command. I would calmly say 'wait' (and used a hand signal) and then when I released him, he dropped the object (it was his toys). I'm not training him for sport - I'm just adding more useless parlor tricks to his resume. We are now working on "Take it to....."

That's really all I want. Lol. I just like training him new things. It's fun to see it click!


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