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Old 08-21-2014, 01:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So lately Gunther flat out refuses to listen to me when I call him inside. It does not matter what he's doing, if he's fixated on something nothing works. Not treats, dinner, my old lassoing, dog whistle, praise, nothing. Period. If he's eating poop he will grab and munch while running from me. Tonight a police officer had someone pulled over right in front of my house and Gunther wouldn't listen at all. I was so worried that something would happen. But not really as they probably already recognized my voice and would have been cool when they knew it was me. But still. When Tim takes him out and then calls him in, he comes right away. I'm stuck. Tim said what he did differently was chase him through the entire yard enough times (through the bushes, trees, ticks, and fleas) that Gunther realizes he has to come when called. That's not near enough realistic for me as I'm the one who has to try to get him in in pitch black at night. I'm willing to try Tim's way up to a point, but please still need more suggestions. I guess I should probably go back to square one in training, but again not all that realistic. As I can't go out in the middle of the night with him on a leash and train with neighbors windows open. Nor can I do so throughout the day as I have stuff to do around the house and can't accurately judge when he actually HAS to go versus WANTS to go. With the EPI, I can't play guessing games.
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Old 08-21-2014, 01:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Get a long line. Let him out to do his business, call him in. If he doesn't come reel him in. He'll learn that unless he listens he gets no adventure time. I would never chase a dog to come in the house, they think it's play time then. You can work on his recall all day long in the house. Have treats with you at all times, call him, when he comes give him a treat and carry on. You can do that 100 times a day. Don't ever call him to you for things like ear cleaning. , nail trims, or anything he finds unpleasant, he'll never come to you again.
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To add to the above -

Don't call him to you only to bring him in. Call him to you for play, quick scratch, a treat; then release him to go about the yard again.
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I agree with Twyla and lombardo.

I would also add restrained recalls to your training. Have a friend hold your dog, tease him up from a good recall distance, then say your recall command at the same time your friend releases the dog. Then switch roles and repeat.

I've been doing this and it has improved Linus' recall.
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Old 08-26-2014, 09:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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There are many ways to teach a dog to come when called.

The way Tim did it is a new one on me - there are better methods.

Assuming your dog understands the command, the e-collar is

fastest no nonsense method to solid results with recall and

everything else. For recall all you do is call him and if he

doesn't beat a trail to you, you give him a little reminder.

There will be some who will groan and moan about this but

the fact is you can't beat this method for fast solid results.
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He would lose all freedom if he were mine. Go out on a leash with a prong and go in with a leash with a prong.
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Old 08-26-2014, 09:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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There are many ways to teach a dog to come when called.

The way Tim did it is a new one on me - there are better methods.

Assuming your dog understands the command, the e-collar is

fastest no nonsense method to solid results with recall and

everything else. For recall all you do is call him and if he

doesn't beat a trail to you, you give him a little reminder.

There will be some who will groan and moan about this but

the fact is you can't beat this method for fast solid results.
There is merit when a dog understands that someone can reach out and "touch" them......

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There is merit when a dog understands that someone can reach out and "touch" them......

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Good common sense, that's what I like about you SuperG.
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I 100 % agree with the e-collar. (As long as you introduce it's use the correct way) I had recall issues to a point with my male. Worked in the e-collar and now, we are off leash all day in the park. Even right next to dog parks with other dogs barking like crazy my boy will recall ASAP when I call. Once the dog understands the "nick" is the same transition to a "correction/reminder" as with being on lead, they totally understand. You won't even have to use a "high distraction" level. The dog will get it, just like if someone called you and you didn't here them, but then they tap you on the shoulder. You would get it, be like oh what? Come? Ok
The ability to reach out and "touch" is amazing especially with high drive stubborn males lol.
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Just remember with the e-collar, not to make him "collar smart". They get this way when the collar is either not consistently used or the collar is not on the dog when out of the kennel. You can't just have it on him when you feel like it or not. If used, has to be on the dog when he is out or it's useless as they get wise to when it's on or not.
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