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Karly is taking her CGC test next month. The only problem we are going to have is with the "Supervised Separation" portion of the test. She throws an absolute fit if I walk away. Anyone have any tips on how to get past this? I'm thinking click and treat every time she stops squealing and gradually phasing that out. We have a few weeks to correct this and I'm confident we will work through it.

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I teach the a long down stay (built up to 20-30 minutes) out of sight. Then for the supervised separation, just put my dog in a down stay.
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teach her "stay", "sit stay", "down stay". walk a short distance away.
gradually add distance. then start stepping out of sight. hide behind a
car, a tree, duck behind a fence, etc. in the house step behind a door,
go to another room. slowly add more time to being out of sight.
when i did the out of sight training i use to make noise as an added
distraction. slowly increase your time out of sight.

at some point start training being out of sight with a person
holding Karly.

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teach her "stay", "sit stay", "down stay". walk a short distance away.
gradually add distance. then start stepping out of sight. hide behind a
car, a tree, duck behind a fence, etc. in the house step behind a door,
go to another room. slowly add more time to being out of sight.
when i did the out of sight training i use to make noise as an added
distraction. slowly increase your time out of sight.

at some point start training being out of sight with a person
holding Karly.
Thanks for the suggestions. She knows all these commands and will do them in the house but she's not yet 100% reliable outside. When we tried it at practice she stayed put but screamed and howled like someone was killing her. Understandably this would be a fail. I work from home so I think overall she just spends too much time with me. Even when I leave the house and the rest of the family is here with her she puts on quit a show when I leave.
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Thanks for the suggestions. She knows all these commands and will do them in the house but she's not yet 100% reliable outside. When we tried it at practice she stayed put but screamed and howled like someone was killing her. Understandably this would be a fail. I work from home so I think overall she just spends too much time with me. Even when I leave the house and the rest of the family is here with her she puts on quit a show when I leave.
Do you have family or coworkers who could play with her and make it fun for her to spend time with people other than yourself? Especially if they have treats or toys that you don't have, that could help her associate you leaving with getting something special. Sort of like when I was a kid, my mom would get us acclimated to having a babysitter by having the babysitter take us places or feed us things we normally weren't allowed to have.
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Do you have family or coworkers who could play with her and make it fun for her to spend time with people other than yourself? Especially if they have treats or toys that you don't have, that could help her associate you leaving with getting something special. Sort of like when I was a kid, my mom would get us acclimated to having a babysitter by having the babysitter take us places or feed us things we normally weren't allowed to have.
That's why I was thinking using the clicker and treating when she stops freaking out. I've also started having more crate time. I've gotten into the habit of not using it much because I'm always here and I take her anywhere that allows dogs. She's just not used to not being with me.

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i trained indoors and outside. you can train when walking,
when playing in the yard, go somewhere to train, train at
pet store, at the mall, etc.

now acting up when you leave the house with other
family members there, i don't know what to do about that.

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Thanks for the suggestions. She knows all these commands and will do them in the house but she's not yet 100% reliable outside. When we tried it at practice she stayed put but screamed and howled like someone was killing her. Understandably this would be a fail. I work from home so I think overall she just spends too much time with me. Even when I leave the house and the rest of the family is here with her she puts on quit a show when I leave.
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the point was use these commands and work on being out of sight
indoors and outside.

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teach her "stay", "sit stay", "down stay". walk a short distance away.
gradually add distance. then start stepping out of sight. hide behind a
car, a tree, duck behind a fence, etc. in the house step behind a door,
go to another room. slowly add more time to being out of sight.
when i did the out of sight training i use to make noise as an added
distraction. slowly increase your time out of sight.

at some point start training being out of sight with a person
holding Karly.
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Thanks for the suggestions. She knows all these commands and will do them in the house but she's not yet 100% reliable outside. When we tried it at practice she stayed put but screamed and howled like someone was killing her. Understandably this would be a fail. I work from home so I think overall she just spends too much time with me. Even when I leave the house and the rest of the family is here with her she puts on quit a show when I leave.
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I teach the a long down stay (built up to 20-30 minutes) out of sight. Then for the supervised separation, just put my dog in a down stay.
Does the "stranger" have to be holding the leash? My dog could be in a down stay with me out of sight no problem but if a stranger grabbed his leash they might die.
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the point was use these commands and work on being out of sight
indoors and outside.
I'm sorry I guess I wasn't clear. She can do this inside when I am out of sight. In our back yard she is not 100% but getting there. With someone else holding her in a strange location she stayed put but screamed about it the entire time. I think I need to work more outside and in strange locations? How much of the show that she put on do you think had to do with the strange person?

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