Female litter mates, 13 mos starting to fight

[Mrs.K]

Originally Posted by Dotty

Thanks for the tips.
What is wrong with the ear bites and play?
Ellie has patchy ears, I wasn't sure if it is from play or food allergies. BTW Ellie is not the dominant one.

The Malinois bitch always needs to bite something when she's overly excited and she has no idea how strong she is. If I don't put a muzzle on her, she will either go for Yukons nose, Nala's or Indra's ears. She bit Nala's ear so hard that she ended up with a deep scratch and a bloody ear. I was worried that she may end up with a blood ear which is why I simply put a muzzle on Ma Deuce and the problem is solved. She can still carry a stringball in her mouth but she can't do any damage to the other girls and I don't have to worry about a dog fight.

For me rotating is not an issue, each of them gets alone time with me, which they need. However, I have to make sure that I keep a certain structure in that too. If I had one bitch out and then let bitch no2 out, bitch no2 will go after bitch no1 because of jealousy, however, if I have bitch no2 out first, bitch no1 doesn't care about any of that.

[msvette2u]

Yes. If you can find a qualified home.
Maybe enlist a rescue to assist in rehoming?

[Dotty]

Originally Posted by msvette2u

Yes. If you can find a qualified home.
Maybe enlist a rescue to assist in rehoming?

She would go back to the breeder because of the contract we signed.

If push came to shove, Ellie would go back to my daughter before anything. However she can't go back now due to her problems with reactivity.

Ellie is going for a complete assessment on Saturday with a behaviorist, she also has separation anxiety. She is has tantrums, when I leave her alone for 5 mins, she will run around the house and chew everything in her path.

It is hard because, my daughter is young, she has to work. Where I work from home, so the dogs are rarely alone.

I hate to think of Ellie alone for such long stretches and her sister (mine) has a charmed life.

[msvette2u]

Does your daughter have another dog? If not, reactivity can be addressed.

I'd send the dog back to the breeder, then, if it was me, rather than sentence her to a life like

[Jax08]

Originally Posted by Dotty

She would go back to the breeder because of the contract we signed.

If push came to shove, Ellie would go back to my daughter before anything. However she can't go back now due to her problems with reactivity.

Ellie is going for a complete assessment on Saturday with a behaviorist, she also has separation anxiety. She is has tantrums, when I leave her alone for 5 mins, she will run around the house and chew everything in her path.

It is hard because, my daughter is young, she has to work. Where I work from home, so the dogs are rarely alone.

I hate to think of Ellie alone for such long stretches and her sister (mine) has a charmed life.

I live with 2 spayed females that can't get along. It's exhausting.

First, spaying an actually make a dog more aggressive because her hormones are out of whack. I wish I had known that prior to spaying Sierra specifically for aggression. But that is not relevant to your situation anyways just an interesting note.

Return the your daughter's girl to the breeder. A wise friend put it this way when I wanted to adopt an adult male....let her be somebody's baby instead of your management headache. Your daughter is obviously not ready for a dog and you need to make the right decision for the dog, which is get her into a home with no other females and someone that has time to work on her issues.

[Lilie]

Originally Posted by Jax08

Return the your daughter's girl to the breeder. A wise friend put it this way when I wanted to adopt an adult male....let her be somebody's baby instead of your management headache.

Great words of wisdom!

[Mrs.K]

Originally Posted by jax08

i live with 2 spayed females that can't get along. It's exhausting.

First, spaying an actually make a dog more aggressive because her hormones are out of whack. I wish i had known that prior to spaying sierra specifically for aggression. But that is not relevant to your situation anyways just an interesting note.

Return the your daughter's girl to the breeder. A wise friend put it this way when i wanted to adopt an adult male....let her be somebody's baby instead of your management headache. your daughter is obviously not ready for a dog and you need to make the right decision for the dog, which is get her into a home with no other females and someone that has time to work on her issues.

this!

[Dotty]

Originally Posted by msvette2u

Does your daughter have another dog? If not, reactivity can be addressed.

I'd send the dog back to the breeder, then, if it was me, rather than sentence her to a life like

No she doesn't have another dog.

[msvette2u]

Well if she can't manage the dog, then,

let her be somebody's baby instead of your management headache.

It isn't fair to any of you to have to manage her for the rest of her life.
As others said, she's got a shot at being a normal dog whom someone dotes on for the rest of her life.

[Dotty]

Thank you everyone for your input, it is being processed and I see that this is quite serious and should be taken that way. It makes me feel sad thinking that they would be happier alone.

Originally Posted by Jax08

I live with 2 spayed females that can't get along. It's exhausting.

First, spaying an actually make a dog more aggressive because her hormones are out of whack. I wish I had known that prior to spaying Sierra specifically for aggression. But that is not relevant to your situation anyways just an interesting note.

Return the your daughter's girl to the breeder. A wise friend put it this way when I wanted to adopt an adult male....let her be somebody's baby instead of your management headache. Your daughter is obviously not ready for a dog and you need to make the right decision for the dog, which is get her into a home with no other females and someone that has time to work on her issues.

We are a very animal oriented family, and would try everything before we rehomed. My whole life is about pets, work included.

They do play ALL day together, all in fun. Sometimes it gets a little serious, but they stop right away.

So far the serious fighting is when they are super excited to go for a car ride, they fight on the way to the car. So the energy is very high. We now leash them when approaching the car.

I do have another option.
I work from home, but it is in a separate space, not in the 'home' but detached from the home. I could bring one in the morning and one in the evening.

They really are the farthest thing from unhappy from what I can tell.

My husband is the golden boy, God's gift to everything dogs included. His attention is what they compete for.

I am serious about trying everything, I am actually considering going to a dog training school in January so I can train them myself.

We had a GS cross for 15 years (RIP last Dec.), he was a very cherished member of our family. It is a big adjustment! It was a shock that these dogs could see and hear us; we were so used to having a deaf and mostly blind dog we had to carry everywhere most of the time.