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Old 12-05-2012, 08:45 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I have not even got this far....She is told to wait, then I throw whatever it is, then tell her to get it. For emergency situations I use an emergency word and she immediately responds and comes back to me. When I start working on the downs in the middle of a recall I think the long line is a great idea.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:28 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I am glad to know I have been doing some things right, and glad to see how to go further. Rocket's training suffered a bit while I was working, and just today we started the down on send away again. He has gotten rusty.

I'm so glad you ask these questions Anthony. We all learn much from them!




Well, thank you

I'm glad everyone else it learning. I'm not getting it at all.
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Well, thank you

I'm glad everyone else it learning. I'm not getting it at all.
Ok. Forget about the recall during send away for now. Just practice having her wait to fetch until you give her a command. Throw the ball with the dog in the heel position. This way you can hold her collar until she begins to understand. Don't let her go for a second or two. When she returns have her hold the ball until you take it then have her return to the heel position and wait for you to send her out for the next retrieve.

By doing this you are building control over the dog and teaching her that obedience is rewarded with the retrieve.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:42 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Ok. Forget about the recall during send away for now. Just practice having her wait to fetch until you give her a command. Throw the ball with the dog in the heel position. This way you can hold her collar until she begins to understand. Don't let her go for a second or two. When she returns have her hold the ball until you take it then have her return to the heel position and wait for you to send her out for the next retrieve.

By doing this you are building control over the dog and teaching her that obedience is rewarded with the retrieve.

Just to clarify... Kira will stay at my side and wait for a release to fetch. Ive been doing this for quite some time now. I can put her in a heel, throw her ball or whatever, and she will not go until I say so.

Now where do I go from there?
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:56 PM   #35 (permalink)
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i'll throw something and let my dog bring it back to me. then
i'll throw his toy and as he approaches the toy i'll call him back.
on his way back i'll stop him, call him to me and make him stop again.
then i'll call him to me, make him stop and drop the toy. if my GF is there
i'll have him take the toy to her. i'll mix in stop, drop it, come, sit, down.
i'll call him to me and before he gets to me make him stop and go back
and get the toy. i mix it up so he's not just retrieving. if we're playing
where there's a curb i'll throw the toy in the street. he stops at the curb.
i can throw his toy then we walk away from it. sometimes we'll walk far away from the toy and then i'll send him back to get the toy.
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Doggiedad, can I just send Hans over for a board and train?

You make it sound so easy, while we are tearing our hair out, LOL
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:10 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Like I said... train at the level of *prey* drive... prey... where it is a challenge to get the behavior.
How do you create prey-like situations? I can think of only fetching games. I guess I can go for a long walk in the woods and find some wild life, but then I'd usually call my dog off before she even start the chase and she knows she can't chase while she is leashed.

My goal is to train a solid recall and down when the dog is in the middle of a chase, in case I fail to call her off before the chase begins for whatever reasons. As the dog matures (1 yr old) her prey drive is increasing.
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i'll throw something and let my dog bring it back to me. then
i'll throw his toy and as he approaches the toy i'll call him back.
on his way back i'll stop him, call him to me and make him stop again.
then i'll call him to me, make him stop and drop the toy. if my GF is there
i'll have him take the toy to her. i'll mix in stop, drop it, come, sit, down.
i'll call him to me and before he gets to me make him stop and go back
and get the toy. i mix it up so he's not just retrieving. if we're playing
where there's a curb i'll throw the toy in the street. he stops at the curb.
i can throw his toy then we walk away from it. sometimes we'll walk far away from the toy and then i'll send him back to get the toy.
This all sounds good.. But I don't have a remote control for her

Not sure how I can get to the point you describe.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:16 PM   #39 (permalink)
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i'll throw something and let my dog bring it back to me. then
i'll throw his toy and as he approaches the toy i'll call him back.
on his way back i'll stop him, call him to me and make him stop again.
then i'll call him to me, make him stop and drop the toy. if my GF is there
i'll have him take the toy to her. i'll mix in stop, drop it, come, sit, down.
i'll call him to me and before he gets to me make him stop and go back
and get the toy. i mix it up so he's not just retrieving. if we're playing
where there's a curb i'll throw the toy in the street. he stops at the curb.
i can throw his toy then we walk away from it. sometimes we'll walk far away from the toy and then i'll send him back to get the toy.
This is the only way I can think of to train it too (and successfully) but I'm learning this is not the same as prey drive. Prey drive is much much stronger and instinctive in the dog that has it, it seems. I can't replicate the same success on a wildlife chase. Part of it may just be I haven't train her on it for long. But the ecollar (if I may say it) has greatly helped with timing issues on longer distance trainings.
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This all sounds good.. But I don't have a remote control for her

Not sure how I can get to the point you describe.
Start with a long line or flexi in a distraction free zone. Start with shorter distance then increase. Or go easier - tell her to wait or down her just when she's wandering around. When she gets that, try with toy but on shorter distance and with a line. If the dog can down and sit far away from you in stillness, the dog will be able to translate that sometimes into the middle of a run or walk.
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