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Old 09-20-2010, 05:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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And actually that's in the neighborhood, on our morning and evening walks -- she's really good.
But at the park or the pet store or anywhere else, she's always pulling to go sniff or investigate something.
Luckily I'm pretty strong so she doesn't get too good of an opportunity to pull me off balance; but at 35 pounds she is pretty strong...I can only imagine when she's 50 pounds how she'll be able to pull.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I've used prong collars in the past, but since then I've learned better ways that actually involve training the dogs. The prong collar is just a crutch and not a substitution for actually training your dog to understand what you are asking it to do. That's the problem your dog isn't "getting it." If you don't have an obedience class nearby, there are some great resources online. Here is a great video that utilizes clicker training to teach polite walking. IMO, clicker training is the fastest way to teach your dog what you want.

These videos use a German Shepherd. Watch all three parts before you try (or don't try) it.
Video 1 (3 parts)
SHAPING POLITE WALKING with a High Rate of Reinforcement: PART 1 OF 3 on Vimeo

Proper order....
Part 2
SHAPING POLITE WALKING with a HIGH RATE OF REINFORCEMENT - PART 2 OF 3 on Vimeo

Part 3
http://www.vimeo.com/13321611
Love it! Thank you!

Edit: Just finished. If this forum had a rep system, I'd give you some! I wish I had known this with my last dog, it would have made life easier on my arm!

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Old 09-20-2010, 08:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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These videos use a German Shepherd. Watch all three parts before you try (or don't try) it.
Video 1 (3 parts)
SHAPING POLITE WALKING with a High Rate of Reinforcement: PART 1 OF 3 on Vimeo

Proper order....
Part 2
SHAPING POLITE WALKING with a HIGH RATE OF REINFORCEMENT - PART 2 OF 3 on Vimeo

Part 3
http://www.vimeo.com/13321611
I just found these videos online a few weeks ago, and actually posted them on another thread recently. I "know" Helix from Leslie McDevitt's (Control Unleashed) yahoo group, which was shut down awhile back. I think Helix was a moderator there, or at least she was very active on the list, and she's a trainer up in Oregon.

I really like this method, and it's similar to how I taught Halo, but rather than just taking one step after the pivot and stopping, I'd walk several steps with her.
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Old 09-20-2010, 09:06 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I am a big fan of the Halti head collar it worked wonders for us. We used it in ob classes and to master healing!
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Old 09-20-2010, 09:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Miss Molly May, how long did you use the Halti for? My initial training class wouldn't allow the use of prong collars which forced us into the Halti which is pretty good but I'm weaning them off to a prong now. I've had several trainers tell me (of course EVERYONE has an opinion) that once you start using a Halti, the dog never learns to walk nicely off it because of going from face to neck collar.
What's your experience with it? My male seems to respect the prong and stays right where he needs to...gets very little correcting. My female however does not respect the prong and performs better on the Halti. So I'm wishy-washy about which I should stick to and for how long....
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