Chinese herbs vet?

Grims · 12-11-2008, 11:49 AM

I am fed up with my vet, I have been trying to figure out my pups digestive issues for months...and he just deworms him and puts him on a Science Diet prescription canned food each time.

So, i wanted to find a vet that supported raw feeding, thinking they would be more open minded...the only one I could find just moved here from California...and doesn't have an office yet. She sees patients in her barn and does acupuncture and Chinese herbs only. Sounds kinda witch doctory to me...

The vets name is Darcie Quam, I did a google search and she is indeed a certified vet.

This is her husbands website...who she is mentioned on...he does horse Chiropractic ..

http://www.horsefixer.com/services.html

I would rather not throw a way any more money on snake oil, what are your thoughts on this?

Grims · 12-11-2008, 12:25 PM

Oh, and don't mean to rush but I set up an appointment (out of desperation) so if you guys have any opinions one way or the other...sooner the better

Brightelf · 12-11-2008, 12:40 PM

I'm a real believer in Traditional Chinese Medicine for animals. The science behind it-- and it IS science-- is not "Western" thought nor even close to it. The reasoning behind what is done to help settle a digestive issue isn't the way we think about it at all. This is treating the entire system and not a teeny weeny symptom. The focus is balancing the system itself. Then, it lets the body maintain itself at the optimal balance. WOW... I have seen near miracles with this.

littledmc17 · 12-11-2008, 01:27 PM

I have Brady on herbs everyday!!!
sick of having him on Meds

LisaT · 12-11-2008, 07:51 PM

I'm glad that you made an appointment.

Doing only herbs and acupuncture allows her to not have to deal with a lot of conventional medicine that runs counter-intuitive to someone working with that type of medicine. I have been to both types of vets that do acupuncture and herbs -- one that only does that, and another that is a mix and works in a big practice. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.

As for the type of medicine -- If you find the right practitioner that connects with your dog, they should be able to help a lot, in ways that conventional medicine can't.

I think it's cool that her husband does equine chiropractic. That says that she will know quite a few things outside of her certification, at least looking over the site that you posted.

Do be sure that you let us know how it goes!!

3K9Mom · 12-11-2008, 08:58 PM

I'll bring my dogs to any vet that might be able to help them. And the only way to know if someone can help them is to bring them to the vet.

Kind of circular, huh?

In the end, it helps to have an open mind, a discerning brain, and a watchful eye. If something sounds reasonable, try it. If it works, keep doing it. If it has bad effects, stop. If it doesn't seem to be helping (but it doesn't seem to hurt), try it a little longer and do some more research. If nothing helps, check out other options.

And the more you do this, the more you learn (how do you think some of us learned this stuff? We've had sick dogs!). And the more you'll trust your instincts.

I think that discontinuing using your existing vet is a good idea, BTW. Even if you opt to find another traditional vet as a back-up, leaving that other practice seems (to me, anyhow) like a wise idea. There are lots of good vets out there. Unfortunately, there are some less than adequate ones too. So, we keep searching.

Keep us posted. Good luck. I hope this works for you and your pup.

Grims · 12-12-2008, 09:36 AM

Thanks guys, I was a little worried about it. I never knew there was any science to this old Chinese stuff.

Grims · 12-12-2008, 03:23 PM

Get this, when I called my now ex vet to get Axel's records they told me I would have to pay a 15 dollar processing fee!

mommyof1 · 12-12-2008, 03:33 PM

What are you serious? Thats crazy. That is ridiculous.

LisaT · 12-12-2008, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted By: AxxelThanks guys, I was a little worried about it. I never knew there was any science to this old Chinese stuff.

It also depends on what you mean by science. There is science to it, but Western medicine hasn't yet found ways to measure all the things that are affected. Thus, if they can't measure it, it's difficult for that type of medicine to acknowledge the full benefits. Some of that is changing however.

http://www.saugertieswellness.com/scienceacup.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...re-cover_x.htm
http://veterinarycalendar.dvm360.com/avh...ategoryId=47263

12-11-2008, 11:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Grims Master Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 693	Chinese herbs vet? I am fed up with my vet, I have been trying to figure out my pups digestive issues for months...and he just deworms him and puts him on a Science Diet prescription canned food each time. So, i wanted to find a vet that supported raw feeding, thinking they would be more open minded...the only one I could find just moved here from California...and doesn't have an office yet. She sees patients in her barn and does acupuncture and Chinese herbs only. Sounds kinda witch doctory to me... The vets name is Darcie Quam, I did a google search and she is indeed a certified vet. This is her husbands website...who she is mentioned on...he does horse Chiropractic .. http://www.horsefixer.com/services.html I would rather not throw a way any more money on snake oil, what are your thoughts on this? __________________ Axel DOB 7-24-08

12-11-2008, 12:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Grims Master Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 693	Re: Chinese herbs vet? Oh, and don't mean to rush but I set up an appointment (out of desperation) so if you guys have any opinions one way or the other...sooner the better __________________ Axel DOB 7-24-08

12-11-2008, 12:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
Brightelf Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 9,357	Re: Chinese herbs vet? I'm a real believer in Traditional Chinese Medicine for animals. The science behind it-- and it IS science-- is not "Western" thought nor even close to it. The reasoning behind what is done to help settle a digestive issue isn't the way we think about it at all. This is treating the entire system and not a teeny weeny symptom. The focus is balancing the system itself. Then, it lets the body maintain itself at the optimal balance. WOW... I have seen near miracles with this. __________________ Patti Frauchen von: Grimm van den Heuvel, aka "The Doofinator" My strong-minded, very loving boy

12-11-2008, 01:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
littledmc17 Crowned Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 11,306	Re: Chinese herbs vet? I have Brady on herbs everyday!!! sick of having him on Meds __________________ Dawn GSRNE Volunteer "A dog a day keeps the Doctor away!" proudly owned by: Brady von Barren Berg, CGC GSD 5/4/05 Cooper von Nordosten, GSD 12/27/10 Missy, Chocolate Lab 3/9/03

12-11-2008, 07:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
LisaT Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northern CA Posts: 17,002	Re: Chinese herbs vet? I'm glad that you made an appointment. Doing only herbs and acupuncture allows her to not have to deal with a lot of conventional medicine that runs counter-intuitive to someone working with that type of medicine. I have been to both types of vets that do acupuncture and herbs -- one that only does that, and another that is a mix and works in a big practice. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. As for the type of medicine -- If you find the right practitioner that connects with your dog, they should be able to help a lot, in ways that conventional medicine can't. I think it's cool that her husband does equine chiropractic. That says that she will know quite a few things outside of her certification, at least looking over the site that you posted. Do be sure that you let us know how it goes!! __________________ K9 Tick Disease Information http://www.rabieschallengefund.org

12-11-2008, 08:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
3K9Mom Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 7,575	Re: Chinese herbs vet? I'll bring my dogs to any vet that might be able to help them. And the only way to know if someone can help them is to bring them to the vet. Kind of circular, huh? In the end, it helps to have an open mind, a discerning brain, and a watchful eye. If something sounds reasonable, try it. If it works, keep doing it. If it has bad effects, stop. If it doesn't seem to be helping (but it doesn't seem to hurt), try it a little longer and do some more research. If nothing helps, check out other options. And the more you do this, the more you learn (how do you think some of us learned this stuff? We've had sick dogs!). And the more you'll trust your instincts. I think that discontinuing using your existing vet is a good idea, BTW. Even if you opt to find another traditional vet as a back-up, leaving that other practice seems (to me, anyhow) like a wise idea. There are lots of good vets out there. Unfortunately, there are some less than adequate ones too. So, we keep searching. Keep us posted. Good luck. I hope this works for you and your pup.

12-12-2008, 09:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
Grims Master Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 693	Re: Chinese herbs vet? Thanks guys, I was a little worried about it. I never knew there was any science to this old Chinese stuff. __________________ Axel DOB 7-24-08

12-12-2008, 03:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
Grims Master Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 693	Re: Chinese herbs vet? Get this, when I called my now ex vet to get Axel's records they told me I would have to pay a 15 dollar processing fee! __________________ Axel DOB 7-24-08

12-12-2008, 03:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
mommyof1 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 49	Re: Chinese herbs vet? What are you serious? Thats crazy. That is ridiculous.

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