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My no chem garlic preventive journey

Thought I would log the ongoing results of my garlic fleat and tick prevention this summer.

So far I am doing a daily flea & tick check but decided to expand on areas where there are known heavy tick populations. Right now the woods behind my house seem pretty clean after the deer left (I am not sure WHY the deer left but there was coyote presence back there that seems to have also disappeared) so neither me NOR the dog are picking up ticks.

So each time I go into tick country I will post anew. Beau is getting about the equivalent of 2 cloves garlic daily in granulated garlic mixed in his food.

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Training on the SC NC border. Everyone was coming back with multiple ticks. I did not find any on me or on Beau but did find one the next day in my hair - not yet attached. Honestly, I think they get into my car then get back on me.

I decided that since I found one unattached on me I would do another more thorough check on Beau both with my fingers and using a slicker to brush and trap unattached critters. He came back with no ticks again. After I brushed I went through the matted hair clumps from the slicker and nothing but hair and some dirt. Also checked between his toes and inside his ears with special care.

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What I'm always wondering is if the benefits outstand the toxicity of Garlic.

Depending on the dog, a small amount can be toxic already, at least that is the common tenor of professionals, however, Garlic seems to be common in treats and holistic treatments but I'm not sure if I want to take the risk.

I'm all for holistic methods but not if it is that controversial.

So what did your research say about it? What did the vet say?

Two cloves each day is not a small amount, especially since it's toxic.
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I understand the thiosulphate present in onions and garlic is the culprit and it is MUCH higher in onions which are very toxic to dogs.

Interesting discussion here. Garlic for Dogs

I will have been giving it for about a month when I take Beau to the vet on May 1 and plan to pull a blood panel. I would think low RBC would be the potential issue. My qty is much less than most of these people (I give about 1/4 tsp a day)

So much of what is good in small doses is toxic in large doses.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2984110/

A lot of folks give springtime garlic to good results.

The vet? The same person who is telling me to neuter my dog for his health? Back when I did not know any better I used garlic and brewers yeast daily for my dogs and did a nightly go over for fleas. Those dogs lived to be 15 and 14. It is a tough call.

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I'm giving Springtime garlic for the first time this season. I hope my dogs forgive me for giving them garlic flavored food constantly.
I look forward to your updates, and hope it works for my pack too!

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I understand the thiosulphate present in onions and garlic is the culprit and it is MUCH higher in onions which are very toxic to dogs.

Interesting discussion here. Garlic for Dogs

I will have been giving it for about a month when I take Beau to the vet on May 1 and plan to pull a blood panel. I would think low RBC would be the potential issue. My qty is much less than most of these people (I give about 1/4 tsp a day)

So much of what is good in small doses is toxic in large doses.
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Some food toxic for pets

A lot of folks give springtime garlic to good results.

The vet? The same person who is telling me to neuter my dog for his health? Back when I did not know any better I used garlic and brewers yeast daily for my dogs and did a nightly go over for fleas. Those dogs lived to be 15 and 14. It is a tough call.
Interesting. Thanks for the link.
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Nope-no bad breath

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When I gave Rusty Springtime garlic he smelled like a pizza shop...didn't bother me. The smell was slight, I smell everything. No bad breath.
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I always feel like people are going to think I work for the company but I don't...

I have been using the Bug Off Garlic for more than 10 years now. 4 of my dogs were on it and in 10 years I have found 2 ticks total. My dogs and I are frequently in areas that are wooded, wet, etc. and other people's dogs always get ticks. They have never had any health problems because of it.

Rafi's breath does smell garlicky but I'd much rather have a dog with garlicky breath than a dog who is getting ticks!

I did switch to the powdered Bug Off a few years back b/c it's more highly concentrated. I had to give Chama the tablets b/c she refused the powder.

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