Nosodes as Lepto Preventive

**jocoyn** · 01-11-2013, 04:41 PM

After weighing all the pros and cons of immunization for lepto, I am going this route (nosodes) as a preventive approach. I realize you could get into big arguments on effectiveness, whatever...This was a hard decision with a lot of research and my primary approach will be strong immune system, vigilance, and rapid vetting/treatment for any illness...BUT....

Anyone here use them in this fashion? My holistic vet is getting me some (well I gather maybe it is just a homeopathic preparation) and I would be interested in hearing others' personal experiences going down this route.

**jocoyn** · 01-14-2013, 08:37 AM

Bump..am I blazing some newer territory.

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Momto2GSDs · 01-19-2013, 10:33 AM

Hi Nancy,
The Lepto vaccine IS dangerous, as you've said.
I have not used the nosode for this but definitely would if I felt it necessary in my area.
Here is a very referenced article that also mentions Cuba (like the article you posted) using homeopathy. LEPTOMANIA - THE PROBLEM WITH LEPTOSPIROSIS VACCINES, by Patricia Jordan, DVM thought the references might give you a few more places to research!

Most nosodes are prepared with a percentage of alcohol (to keep it from going fowl) which the dogs hate to take. If you'd like one without the alcohol
you can purchase it yourself at NaturalRearing.com :: Loading Website...
Hope this helps in your journey!

**Lauri & The Gang** · 01-19-2013, 10:38 AM

I haven't used the Lepto nosodes but I used Parvo and Distemper ones years ago.

Traveler's Mom · 05-30-2013, 03:45 PM

bump

Nancy, can you tell me if you used/are using the nosodes and if you found out any new information?
I am worried about having my GSD vaccinated for Lepto due to the frequency of dogs having negative reactions to it. We are just getting over a huge negative reaction to the rabies vaccine.
Thank you.

**jocoyn** · 05-30-2013, 03:47 PM

Not putting a lot of faith in them...I took another look at the "studies" and am not convinced; I think Cuba is actually using a human vaccine for this.

.....but still up in the air. Need to talk with someone from Merck on their vaccine and stuff at home has been too crazy.

The newer vaccines are a lot cleaner with fewer immediate reactions. I am worried about yearly adjuvant though and lack of efficacy.

Traveler's Mom · 05-30-2013, 03:57 PM

Yes, exactly!

Since I'm in swampy Florida, lepto is a real concern for me. I'd like to say I can keep Traveler away from the swampy areas and stagnant canals, but that would be a lie unless I kept him leashed up 100% of the time. Our yard isn't big enough for him to run and play so I take him to out of the way places for off leash fun. It's inevitable that there will be some standing water in these areas.

01-11-2013, 04:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
jocoyn Zombie Queen Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 12,075	Nosodes as Lepto Preventive After weighing all the pros and cons of immunization for lepto, I am going this route (nosodes) as a preventive approach. I realize you could get into big arguments on effectiveness, whatever...This was a hard decision with a lot of research and my primary approach will be strong immune system, vigilance, and rapid vetting/treatment for any illness...BUT.... Anyone here use them in this fashion? My holistic vet is getting me some (well I gather maybe it is just a homeopathic preparation) and I would be interested in hearing others' personal experiences going down this route. __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Beau -NAPWDA Certified Cadaver Dog Waiting at the Bridge (italics=GSDs) (hemangiosarcoma=blue):Grim , Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

01-14-2013, 08:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
jocoyn Zombie Queen Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 12,075	Bump..am I blazing some newer territory. Hopeopathic Prophylaxis for Leptospirosis in Cuba \| The Truther Girls' Blog __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Beau -NAPWDA Certified Cadaver Dog Waiting at the Bridge (italics=GSDs) (hemangiosarcoma=blue):Grim , Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

01-19-2013, 10:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Lauri & The Gang Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: SouthEastern WI Posts: 13,809	I haven't used the Lepto nosodes but I used Parvo and Distemper ones years ago. __________________ Lauri & The Raw Fed Gang Raw Dog Ranch Winnie CGC - Corgi Mix Chimanes Spice it Up Piquin (Kaynya) - Chinese Crested Nator von Triton HIC CGC (Mauser) - LC GSD Piquins Some Like it Hot (Spike) – Chinese Crested Piquins Too Hot To Handle - (Fuego) - Chinese Crested Piquins Wasabi (Sabi) - Chinese Crested Piquins Super Hot (Clark) - Chinese Crested Banzai, Cloe, Mocha - Felines Extraordinaire Neke, Tessa, Remi, Sadie, Riggs, Sasha, Tazer - DK, Mozart, Zoe - Gone but not forgotten

05-30-2013, 03:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
jocoyn Zombie Queen Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 12,075	Not putting a lot of faith in them...I took another look at the "studies" and am not convinced; I think Cuba is actually using a human vaccine for this. .....but still up in the air. Need to talk with someone from Merck on their vaccine and stuff at home has been too crazy. The newer vaccines are a lot cleaner with fewer immediate reactions. I am worried about yearly adjuvant though and lack of efficacy. __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Beau -NAPWDA Certified Cadaver Dog Waiting at the Bridge (italics=GSDs) (hemangiosarcoma=blue):Grim , Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

01-19-2013, 10:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
Momto2GSDs Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 371	Hi Nancy, The Lepto vaccine IS dangerous, as you've said. I have not used the nosode for this but definitely would if I felt it necessary in my area. Here is a very referenced article that also mentions Cuba (like the article you posted) using homeopathy. LEPTOMANIA - THE PROBLEM WITH LEPTOSPIROSIS VACCINES, by Patricia Jordan, DVM thought the references might give you a few more places to research! Most nosodes are prepared with a percentage of alcohol (to keep it from going fowl) which the dogs hate to take. If you'd like one without the alcohol you can purchase it yourself at NaturalRearing.com :: Loading Website... Hope this helps in your journey!

05-30-2013, 03:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Traveler's Mom Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 66	bump Nancy, can you tell me if you used/are using the nosodes and if you found out any new information? I am worried about having my GSD vaccinated for Lepto due to the frequency of dogs having negative reactions to it. We are just getting over a huge negative reaction to the rabies vaccine. Thank you.

05-30-2013, 03:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
Traveler's Mom Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 66	Yes, exactly! Since I'm in swampy Florida, lepto is a real concern for me. I'd like to say I can keep Traveler away from the swampy areas and stagnant canals, but that would be a lie unless I kept him leashed up 100% of the time. Our yard isn't big enough for him to run and play so I take him to out of the way places for off leash fun. It's inevitable that there will be some standing water in these areas.

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