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Gretchen 01-10-2013 11:57 PM

UC-II undenatured Collagen supplements - have you or your dog tried this?
 
This man I often see on my evening walk with a huge Akita said he has used this type of collagen supplement for his dog and his friends who go dirt bike riding. He felt it has extended his dog's mobility by two years so far.

Just curious if it is effective. My husband needs something more than glucosamine, and Molly may need this. She has a vet appt Saturday for soreness and limping.

Gretchen 01-11-2013 10:41 AM

----bump---
posted late last night

jocoyn 01-11-2013 10:51 AM

Never heard of it before.

carmspack 01-11-2013 01:22 PM

I think she may mean type 11 collagen?

I have pharmaceutical grade by the pound.

Gretchen 01-11-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by carmspack (Post 2716673)
I think she may mean type 11 collagen?

I have pharmaceutical grade by the pound.

It could be. The owner of the Akita is never sure how is dog is going to react around other dogs, so we keep a slight distance when we talk so it was a little difficult to understand and did not have pen or paper. I trust if you use it, it has value. I'll ask at the vet or vet tech tomorrow too. Thanks.

carmspack 01-11-2013 02:28 PM

my dogs get plenty of collagen from chicken necks , chicken skin, chicken condoyles and the breast keel - another source would be the rooster comb . If you live any where close to a "Caribbean - or Halal butcher you can get entire cow's foot (up to the first joint) - simmer in a very large pot and extract the collagen , at end when you allow the broth to concentrate and then cool down you should have a wobbly jelly (aspic) gelatine -- very rich and nutritious .

The collagen that I have in pharmaceutical grade is for our use - but if necessary a dog may enjoy a bit extra in diet
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you don't have to buy at vet ,

Gretchen 01-11-2013 02:33 PM

Thanks, Carmen!

GatorBytes 01-11-2013 02:47 PM

Undenatured means it wasn't heat treated...there are 8 or 10 types of collagen...Type II in chicken cart. as noted...But like vit./min. collagen on it's own is only part of the package that supports joint health...so before going with what seems like the key component - there is more benefit to doing a stock...cow foot, chicken parts noted...but you have to simmer for a long time (slow cooker is best - don't have to watch)...once bones removed, bring to room temp and refridgerate overnight - skim off the lard layer of fat - then you have your gelatin - if it isn't gelatin, then it wasn't cooked long enough.

Another component to maximise extraction from the bones for all the benefits of a stock is to add about 1/4 cup of vinegar.

The Healing Power of Bone Broth Transition Now

Gretchen 01-11-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorBytes (Post 2717098)
Undenatured means it wasn't heat treated...there are 8 or 10 types of collagen...Type II in chicken cart. as noted...But like vit./min. collagen on it's own is only part of the package that supports joint health...so before going with what seems like the key component - there is more benefit to doing a stock...cow foot, chicken parts noted...but you have to simmer for a long time (slow cooker is best - don't have to watch)...once bones removed, bring to room temp and refridgerate overnight - skim off the lard layer of fat - then you have your gelatin - if it isn't gelatin, then it wasn't cooked long enough.

Another component to maximise extraction from the bones for all the benefits of a stock is to add about 1/4 cup of vinegar.

The Healing Power of Bone Broth Transition Now

Sounds easy to do and better than medications. Thanks.

jocoyn 01-11-2013 04:22 PM

My holistic vet is all about bone broth!


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