HIT / HIC and other abbreviations?

AbbyK9 · 02-07-2008, 10:25 PM

I know there are a lot of people on here who herd, so I figured I'd ask my ignorant herding question of the day: what are HIT and HIC and what's the difference?

I've read HIT online as Herding Instinct Tested, meaning your dog has been tested, and HIC as Herding Instinct Certificate. What's the difference between the two? Is there a difference?

Just curious.

doggiedad · 02-07-2008, 11:35 PM

HIT= Help IN Training. HIC= Health In Canines, ok, so i have no idea what those letters mean.

AbbyK9 · 02-08-2008, 12:32 AM

Deejays_Owner · 02-08-2008, 07:43 AM

HIT - Herding Instinct Test (10 min, Certificate)
HIC - Herding Instinct Clinic (Weekend, Certificate)

HT - Herding Test (Pre Title, at a Trial)
HS - Herding Started (1st Title)
HI - Herding Intermediate
HA - Herding Advanced

AbbyK9 · 02-08-2008, 12:43 PM

Thank you - very helpful!

We're going for the test on Sunday.

mspiker03 · 02-08-2008, 01:06 PM

You can also get an HCT (Herding Capability Tested) through the AHBA, which is similar to the HT. Both require that your dog have the ability to move the flock. For the HT it is around cones. I am not sure about the AHBA trial, as we were unable to make it. You do not need any certificate of sorts to run the HT (which is two separate legs under different judges). Of course, we had to have an instinct test in order for us to have herding lessons - but we weren't issued a certificate. Judges are allowed to help you a bit with the HT and the PT (pre trial).

Liesje · 02-27-2008, 08:41 AM

Question about HIT - I finally found someone local who does herding lessons and is willing to test Kenya. However she's not currently testing for any parent club or herding organization. She says she tests instinct and typically gives this test for free, so you don't sign up for lessons and find out the dog wants to eat sheep. We're going to do the test when the weather improves and possibly sign up for lessons if Kenya likes it. Say Kenya passes her test...can I call her HIT or do I need some official piece of paper?

luvmygirl · 02-27-2008, 03:13 PM

In order to get the AKC Herding Instinct Certificate (which is a certificate and not a title) you have to pass the Herding Instinct Test twice, under two different judges. Is the herding person you mentioned an licensed AKC herding judge?

You can find more info at: http://www.akc.org/pdfs/rulebooks/RG9001.pdf

Page 26 talks about the Instinct Test. Hope this helps!

Liesje · 02-27-2008, 04:34 PM

So does "HIT" refer to a dog that has passed twice? I don't know if this particular trainer is a judge. She does lessons and competes, not sure if it's AKC, AHBA or both.

luvmygirl · 02-29-2008, 10:58 AM

Ha, ha - this is where I get confused, too! HIT stands for Herding Instinct Test. When you pass two of those you get an HIC, Herding Instinct Certificate. The way the AKC designates my dog, who passed the two tests, is with "IT". Here's how it shows up on the AKC website feature My Dogs, where you can see all your dogs titles and awards:

Herding Test - Awards Processed Through 28-FEB-2008

IT Number Qualifying Scores 2
Number Different Judges 2

So, if you got the Herding Instinct Certificate, you have an "IT"? We need a herding expert here! :-)

02-07-2008, 10:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
AbbyK9 Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Country, NY Posts: 12,442	HIT / HIC and other abbreviations? I know there are a lot of people on here who herd, so I figured I'd ask my ignorant herding question of the day: what are HIT and HIC and what's the difference? I've read HIT online as Herding Instinct Tested, meaning your dog has been tested, and HIC as Herding Instinct Certificate. What's the difference between the two? Is there a difference? Just curious. __________________ Malinois Ronja - fastest K-9 in VT =^^= Finn, Ratchet & Ollie Blog - Facebook - Store

02-07-2008, 11:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
doggiedad Crowned Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jenkintown,Pa. Posts: 9,853	Re: HIT / HIC and other abbreviations? HIT= Help IN Training. HIC= Health In Canines, ok, so i have no idea what those letters mean. __________________ "Life Without A Dog Is A Life Unfulfilled"

02-08-2008, 12:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
AbbyK9 Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Country, NY Posts: 12,442	Re: HIT / HIC and other abbreviations? __________________ Malinois Ronja - fastest K-9 in VT =^^= Finn, Ratchet & Ollie Blog - Facebook - Store

02-08-2008, 07:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
Deejays_Owner Knighted Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ont. Canada Posts: 3,360	Re: HIT / HIC and other abbreviations? HIT - Herding Instinct Test (10 min, Certificate) HIC - Herding Instinct Clinic (Weekend, Certificate) HT - Herding Test (Pre Title, at a Trial) HS - Herding Started (1st Title) HI - Herding Intermediate HA - Herding Advanced __________________ OTCH SG1 (CAN) Deejay von Hausnobilis UD HIT CGN ~A Well-Balanced Dog has Titles at Both Ends~ Little Raven Fayanna vom Wildhaus CGN

02-08-2008, 12:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
AbbyK9 Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Country, NY Posts: 12,442	Re: HIT / HIC and other abbreviations? Thank you - very helpful! We're going for the test on Sunday. __________________ Malinois Ronja - fastest K-9 in VT =^^= Finn, Ratchet & Ollie Blog - Facebook - Store

02-08-2008, 01:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
mspiker03 Knighted Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So-Cal/Nor-Cal Posts: 2,420	Re: HIT / HIC and other abbreviations? You can also get an HCT (Herding Capability Tested) through the AHBA, which is similar to the HT. Both require that your dog have the ability to move the flock. For the HT it is around cones. I am not sure about the AHBA trial, as we were unable to make it. You do not need any certificate of sorts to run the HT (which is two separate legs under different judges). Of course, we had to have an instinct test in order for us to have herding lessons - but we weren't issued a certificate. Judges are allowed to help you a bit with the HT and the PT (pre trial). __________________ Levi vom Grunenfeld, CGC, HT, PT, HSAs, AHBA titles: RLFI (Ranch Large Flock), HTDI (Herding Trial Dog), HRDI (Herding Ranch Dog) Leyna vom Grunenfeld, HT, PT, HSAs Visit us at http://www.dogster.com/?435734

02-27-2008, 08:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,970	Re: HIT / HIC and other abbreviations? Question about HIT - I finally found someone local who does herding lessons and is willing to test Kenya. However she's not currently testing for any parent club or herding organization. She says she tests instinct and typically gives this test for free, so you don't sign up for lessons and find out the dog wants to eat sheep. We're going to do the test when the weather improves and possibly sign up for lessons if Kenya likes it. Say Kenya passes her test...can I call her HIT or do I need some official piece of paper? __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

02-27-2008, 03:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
luvmygirl Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 467	Re: HIT / HIC and other abbreviations? In order to get the AKC Herding Instinct Certificate (which is a certificate and not a title) you have to pass the Herding Instinct Test twice, under two different judges. Is the herding person you mentioned an licensed AKC herding judge? You can find more info at: http://www.akc.org/pdfs/rulebooks/RG9001.pdf Page 26 talks about the Instinct Test. Hope this helps!

02-27-2008, 04:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,970	Re: HIT / HIC and other abbreviations? So does "HIT" refer to a dog that has passed twice? I don't know if this particular trainer is a judge. She does lessons and competes, not sure if it's AKC, AHBA or both. __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

02-29-2008, 10:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
luvmygirl Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 467	Re: HIT / HIC and other abbreviations? Ha, ha - this is where I get confused, too! HIT stands for Herding Instinct Test. When you pass two of those you get an HIC, Herding Instinct Certificate. The way the AKC designates my dog, who passed the two tests, is with "IT". Here's how it shows up on the AKC website feature My Dogs, where you can see all your dogs titles and awards: Herding Test - Awards Processed Through 28-FEB-2008 IT Number Qualifying Scores 2 Number Different Judges 2 So, if you got the Herding Instinct Certificate, you have an "IT"? We need a herding expert here! :-)

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