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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 02-17-2017, 07:03 AM Thread Starter
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Anyone used Atopica 50mg before for Itchy Paws?

Hi All. My 5 year old GSD has suffered with itchy paws for about the last 3 years.
She was tested for allergies and is allergic to dust mites.
We've treated the carpets, she's been on steroids, Apoquel and now on Atopica 50mg which are mega expensive! There appears to be a reasonable improvement after a week..
Does anyone have any experience with using Atopica 50mg for allergies/itchy paws?
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Apoquel and Atopica are some pretty heavy meds!

Have you ever tried to do an elimination diet with a ONE protein, commercially prepared and balance, raw food diet and treats, without ANY form of chicken in it to see if it helped? IMHO, this is safer.

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Article on Atopica:
Is Atopica Safe For Dogs? - Dogs Naturally Magazine




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We've used cyclosporine (sp?) or the generic version of atopica. It helped with the itching, but I also remember her blowing her coat like never before. It took some time to grow back too, she looked ridiculous. We have her straightened out for the most part now and only mild flare ups. We use Zyrtec as needed and that's enough if we act as soon as tbe itching begins.
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My dog was on Atopica and it really did not work. She was switched to Apoquel and is still itching. On a scale of 1 to 10 , she itches between a 1 to 4 some days are different. I guess that is as good as we will get. Just so frustrated with this whole thing.
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I had luck with a previous shepherd by using new life colustrum...Current shepherd has not had any luck with it....
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I'm just so fed up for her having to put up with this. I see 'Moms' below is giving info on diet. It's about the last thing I can try I think, but won't be easy as she is very food orientated, and as I understand it, all treats/biscuits/chew bones have to go out of the window while you try to ascertain what, if any, foods cause her problem. Will stick with the Atopica for a while, its only been a week now. One months supply cost me £172 and that was off the Internet via a reputable supplier. From the vets it would have been over £500!!
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I'm just so fed up for her having to put up with this. I see 'Moms' below is giving info on diet. It's about the last thing I can try I think, but won't be easy as she is very food orientated, and as I understand it, all treats/biscuits/chew bones have to go out of the window while you try to ascertain what, if any, foods cause her problem. Will stick with the Atopica for a while, its only been a week now. One months supply cost me £172 and that was off the Internet via a reputable supplier. From the vets it would have been over £500!!
I feel so bad for you!

My sister just got a 4 year old golden with the same problems and we are working on her, so I understand how hard this itching thing is!

Yes, ONE protein raw food, containing NO chicken ingredients, and matching treat of same protein (no other ingredients) is best for an elimination.

Where are you in Europe?
I may have info for a raw supplier for you once you finish the atopica IF you can't get the Ziwi in your area.


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