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Hello, my Luna has been suffering from the demodectic mange for a while now and no matter what I do (Vet informed wise) she is not getting better and she is losing hair. Right now, she is not horrific looking or anything but there are patches missing from her flank, her paws, and on her forehead. The hair on her muzzle and around her ears and eyes are thinning out. I'm giving her the highly potent heartworm-like medicine the vet said would help, but it's not doing anything. This isn't even adding that I hate the vet that we go to and am thinking about switching all my pets to another. Has anyone else suffered from this, are there things I can do at home that could help her? I feel bad for her and it's just pissing me off that this vet isn't trying hard enough just because it's 'common'.
 
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Hi Rain!

Sounds like your pup has a pretty bad case!

There are many chemical based products you could use.The following are some suggestions to consider from a "holistic" point of view. ("holistic" = treating the body as a whole, rather than just treating the "disease")



Mange and yeast can go hand in hand, so I’d suggest changing to a raw diet or a food like Ziwi Peak (see below) whose main ingredients are meat.
Per Dr. J. Thomason:
Demodex mites feed on cellular proteins, systemic yeast, dietary yeast and/or sugar in the system. Remember, mites feed on the yeast living in the body, and systemic yeast feed on nutritional yeast and sugars (carbohydrates/vegetables and grains). If you want to break the cycle and weaken or starve the systemic yeast so that the mites are not able to colonize in the pores. do NOT feed grains or vegetables in the diet (NO WHEAT, OATS, CORN, BARLEY, MILLET OR YEAST OF ANY KIND which includes brewers or nutritional yeast).


CONVENTIONAL/ALLOPATHIC TREATMENT
A lot of Veterinarians in conventional veterinary medicine still use a toxic chemical called Amitraz or Ivermectin to kill the mites. These products can reduce the function of the hypothalamus, which helps regulate the body's metabolism by controlling hormone release in the body. Do a search on Ivermectin and Amtrak and it being a trigger for immune-mediated diseases.”

Please visit her site and read the whole article here: https://www.thewholedog.org/artDemodex.html

Note: That certain ingredients in food always seem to rear their ugly heads to make dogs itch or cause skin problems. In the forefront is Chicken and its derivatives (Cartilage, Fat, Eggs, etc.), also Grains, Flax, and Yeast supplements. Be sure to read all ingredient labels carefully. I'm not saying this has anything to do with mites, just skin issues in general. ;)


Commercially prepared diets MUST be COMPLETE & BALANCED. AND must state "for all life stages" when feeding a puppy. Always check for the proper Calcium/Phosphorus levels for a pup.



Raw BALANCED diets:
Bravo: Discover Balance Raw Diet | Beef Frozen Raw Dog Food Diet - Bravo Pet Food Find a store: Find a Bravo Retailer - Bravo Pet Food
Bravo Safety: http://www.bravorawdiet.com/foodsafety.html
Bravo faqs: http://www.bravorawdiet.com/faqs.html
Price per www.petflow.com : Bravo Balance (complete diet) Beef CHUB = 5#’s = $28.98

Northwest Naturals: Beef ? Northwest Naturals Find a store: Store Locator
What makes NW Natural’s different? http://nwnwordpress1.nw-naturals.net/wp/the-northwest-naturals-difference/
Price per http://www.petfoodzoom.com/northwest-naturals-6-lb-beef-formula-nuggets-raw/ : 6#’s = $28.00 NOTE: you need put your zip code in the store locator above to see if it is in your area.

Primal: Complete Raw Diets for Pets: Canine Beef Formula Find a store: Primal Pet Foods: Store Locator
Feeding Calculator to give you an idea of how much you would feed per day:
Feeding, Transition and Safety for Raw Dog Food Diets
Primal Safety: http://www.primalpetfoods.com/education/foodsafety
Primal Ingredient Benefit: http://www.primalpetfoods.com/education/benefits
Price per http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Primal-Pet-Foods-Raw-Dog-Food/165001.aspx Primal Pronto Beef Bag = 3#’s = $23.00

Darwins: https://www.darwinspet.com/dog-food/3 selections, 3 different price ranges: Natural Selection Premium Line, Prescription Line, ZooLogics Value Line.
Why Choose Darwins?: High Quality Ingredients - Darwin's Pet
The “ZooLogics” are the most reasonably priced: ZooLogics? Raw Dog Food - Darwin's Pet Beef: $4.35/lb
Darwins has Home Delivery!: http://www.darwinspet.com/why-darwins/home-delivery-program/
https://www.mypetcarnivore.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=category&virtuemart_category_id=1&lang=en

If not raw, I would suggest ZiwiPeak AIR Dried moist food: ZiwiPeak pet food is a complete, natural balanced real-meat diet prepared with care in New Zealand. All of our natural ingredients are sourced from the green, free range farms and blue, pristine oceans of New Zealand. The twin stage process eliminates pathogenic bacteria, such as e.coli, salmonella and listeria, while protecting the natural nutrition of our ingredients. As a further safety step, our products are mandatory tested and only released for sale after approval by the New Zealand government's regulatory authorities.
Air-drying is a technique that has been used for centuries to naturally preserve meats. Our modern method stays true to this artisan approach, while eliminating the need for artificial preservatives, salts, sugars or glycerines. Our slow, gentle, twin-stage air-drying process crafts a food that is as nutrient-dense and digestible as a completely raw diet but safe, clean to handle and can store for up to 21 months.


Beef: A complete, balance diet of ranch raised beef meat and organs, this protein rich meal features delicious red meat and nutrient dense organs. It also includes New Zealand green-lipped mussels, a natural source of chondroitin for joint support, and herbs, vitamins and minerals, making it suitable for all breeds and life stages.

Beef ingredients - Beef Meat (min 58%), Liver, Lung, Tripe (min 32%); Green-lipped Mussel (min 3%); Lecithin; Chicory Inulin; Dried Kelp; Parsley. Naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols; Vitamins: Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Folic Acid, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Hydrochloride; Chelated Minerals: Iron amino acid complex, Copper amino acid complex, Manganese amino acid complex, Zinc amino acid complex, Selenium Yeast, Potassium Bicarbonate, Calcium CarbonateCalories - 2227 Kcal/lb
Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein (min) 38%
Crude Fat (min) 35%
Crude Fiber (max) 1.0%
Moisture (max) 13%
Ash (max) 7%
Calcium 1.83%
Phosphorus 1.29%
An 11 pound bag will last a 70 pound dog approximately 20 days.
Price is $142.00 but if you get it on the "auto shipped" program the price goes down to $128.00 for 11 pounds at Only Natural Pet: ZiwiPeak Daily Cuisine Grain-Free Air-Dried Dog Food
There is a feeding calculator at the bottom of this page; Our Ingredients | ZiwiPeak

Also, your treats should not contain any of the offending ingredients:
Suggestion for Treats:
https://sadiesallnatural.com/products/bison-meat-chips.php
https://kccanine-all-natural-dog-treats-usa.myshopify.com/products/prairie-buffalo-soft-jerky-bar
https://www.amazon.com/Bravo-Freeze-Buffalo-Livers-3-Ounce/dp/B004YTZY68
http://www.naturesvariety.com/products/treats/Instinct/biscuits/LIDLamb
http://www.purebites.com/en/products/dog/freeze-dried/lamb/
http://www.purebites.com/en/products/dog/freeze-dried/bison/
http://www.primalpetfoods.com/product/detail/c/12/id/82
http://www.primalpetfoods.com/product/list/c/12

Ziwi Peak Treats: Lamb, Beef, Venison: http://www.ziwipeak.com/catalog/ziwipeak-dog-nutrition/good-dog-treats



I would also Highly suggest a quality Digestive Enzyme (helps to assimilate food) & a ProBiotic (keeps the "good" bacteria in the gut). Since about 75% of the immune system lies in the gut (the immune system is the body’s main defense against issues. It also helps fight allergens) it is very important to keep it extremely healthy.

Note that some chemicals can weaken a dogs’ immune system.

Below are Human Ingredient Products:
Sunday Sundae (Digestive Enzyme & Pro-Biotic Combo): https://market.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/products/sunday-sundae-k9-probiotic-digestive-aid
Gut Sense (ProBiotic): http://dr-dobias-natural-healing-usa...ducts/gutsense
Digest All Plus: (Digestive Enzyme/ProBiotic combo) Wholistic Digest All Plus? - Digestive Support - Canine


Here is a natural/holistic approach to treating Mange:
Demodectic/mites: a combination of Lavender oil mixed with a carrier oil such as Sweet Almond Oil or Rose Hip Seed Oil can be used topically for mange treatment. 1 part Lavender Essential Oil to 10 parts carrier oil.
Spike Lavender Essential Oil: Spike Lavender Essential Oil
Mixed with a Carrier Oil:Aromatherapy Carrier Oils, Cold Pressed and Organic OR Aromatherapy Carrier Oils, Cold Pressed and Organic
Apply to affected areas twice daily or alternate with fresh lemon juice. This helps to kill the mites without any chemicals that could pull down the immune system.

Another more natural approach:
First, bath dog with a Benzoyl Peroxide Shampoo that flushes and opens skin, pores and follicles where the mites hide. Suggestion: DAVIS Benzoyl Peroxide Pet Shampoo: https://www.amazon.com/Davis-Benzoyl-Peroxide-Shampoo-12-Ounce/dp/B0078LOTV0

Vet Organic’s Mange Treatment: https://www.vet-organics.com/product/ecomange-natural-mange-treatment-sarcoptic-demodectic-mites/ EcoMange contains all-natural ingredients including Organic Calendula Extract, Organic Comfrey Root Extract, Citric & Boric Acid, and Ionic Silver. Each ingredient is specifically chosen for its documented effectson supporting the skin and rendering the environment inhospitable to parasites.
*"Repeat every other day for 1 week and then once per week until no longer needed.
*Do not bathe dog on the day using this product."


Hope this helps!
Moms:)
 
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