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Old 07-20-2014, 12:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Anal Glands.. Removal? What else?

Zelda's anal glands get full quick, and have gotten a really bad infection and it came back during medication treatment.. Once the pus is all gone and its healthy- the Vet will probably tell me she needs to go on Prednisone the rest of her life. (She is currently on Prednisone and Cephalexin to help with her anal glands and the hot spots forming under her paw..)
I changed her food to turkey and she did pretty good on it and than the past like month, we have been having problems with her really chewing on herself, her legs, her tail her body, her paws, etc. The anal glands, and hot spots under her paw pads..
The long term effects of Prednisone are damaging and i REALLY don't want to go that route.. Otherwise she would be on pain medication for life if i did not care for long term side effects (for her hips) But i was able to find alternative, for now for her hip pain.
I know of that food sensitivity test, but how will i know if that will help? That is a lot of money to dish out to something i dont know if it will help her.

What else is there??
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Old 07-20-2014, 03:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Are you on a grain free turkey? Try a grain free food. I switched to 4Health Grain free, they have differing varieties. Try the 'fish"..It's relatively inexpensive at tractor supply.

I would add a heaping T of pure canned pumpkin each meal ..(helps with anal glands/fistula's)...You do NOT want the continuing anal gland issue to turn into fistula's, so if they are continually giving her issues, I would consider having them removed.

However, it sounds like she has allergies as well, most fistula dogs if they end up with perianal fistula's, have other issues, like allergies, ibd, epi,,not to say she would end up with them, but constant infections/anal gland issues can lead to them which you want to avoid
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She is on this for dry food: ZignatureŽ - Turkey Formula

And wet food for her supplements is: Wellness Core 95% Turkey.

But i do think i want to try another food.. And my sister has her dog on 4Health and is quite inexpensive, so that is worth a try for sure.

Canned pumpkin everyday is doable!

Yes, no fistulas for Zelda please.. We already have our Vet expenses way too high right now and we don't need another thing to add to her medical problems list.. >.> How do i know if she has one or is developing one?

Do you know the average cost for removal Jakoda? And how many more times she gets them should i have them removed? I do know that there is a slight possibility of incontinence with removal. But i do not know the percentages.
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Nikki had hers removed in December and it was $2,000. I would only have this done by a board certified surgeon.
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The wellness is another good grain free, Masi is on the fish based, and loves it..Kizzy is on turkey, she wasn't thrilled with fish.

Make sure the pumpkin is pure canned, not the sugary pie filling..

I've had two gsd's with fistula's, both were the result of anal gland issues..first one was infected gland, we couldn't clear up..I had the glands removed, no more issues..(find a board certified surgeon definitely!)...This was years and years ago, I think I paid the surgeon around 800..

The second one, blew his gland , again gland infection..that time I went the cyclosporin route , pricey, but I got it at cost..cleared that up no further issues.

Mine never had to have the glands expressed, however, personally, I would say if her glands need expressing once a month, once every couple of months, I would consider the removal..Mine NEVER suffered from incontinence after removal, if you get a surgeon who knows what they are doing, no problems.

as for knowing if she's developing one, wellI'm gonna get graphic...alot of butt licking, is a red flag something is going on,,the skin around the anus will look swelled/puffy, just not normal..trying to defacate and not producing ,,defacating small amounts of liquid diarhea, all dogs are different...blood can be indicator..but the first red flag for me was more than normal butt licking...AND my vet told me, the more expressing sometimes makes the glands inviable..(non working)..

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Nikki had hers removed in December and it was $2,000. I would only have this done by a board certified surgeon.
Oh man thats so pricey.. I agree with the a specialist for sure if i get it done!

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The wellness is another good grain free, Masi is on the fish based, and loves it..Kizzy is on turkey, she wasn't thrilled with fish.

Make sure the pumpkin is pure canned, not the sugary pie filling..

I've had two gsd's with fistula's, both were the result of anal gland issues..first one was infected gland, we couldn't clear up..I had the glands removed, no more issues..(find a board certified surgeon definitely!)...This was years and years ago, I think I paid the surgeon around 800..

The second one, blew his gland , again gland infection..that time I went the cyclosporin route , pricey, but I got it at cost..cleared that up no further issues.

Mine never had to have the glands expressed, however, personally, I would say if her glands need expressing once a month, once every couple of months, I would consider the removal..Mine NEVER suffered from incontinence after removal, if you get a surgeon who knows what they are doing, no problems.

as for knowing if she's developing one, wellI'm gonna get graphic...alot of butt licking, is a red flag something is going on,,the skin around the anus will look swelled/puffy, just not normal..trying to defacate and not producing ,,defacating small amounts of liquid diarhea, all dogs are different...blood can be indicator..but the first red flag for me was more than normal butt licking...AND my vet told me, the more expressing sometimes makes the glands inviable..(non working)..

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Oh thats great.. She was licking her rear a lot, i was thinking and hoping now it was just cause of the anal sac that was infected.. Vets have been looking at it and haven't said anything about fistula yet. She does sometimes have small amount of soft to liquid stool with her normal stool. But its Zelda, and she is a sensitive girl, not sure if its the heat or what.

Ya i heard the same.. I heard even once and it doesn't work as well and probably will have to express them yourself every now and then after.


Lets see, still slowly saving money up to fix at least one of her hips with THR (probably will be years down the road still..) OR use that money to remove her anal glands.. So sad, wish i had a money tree..
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the licking could be the anal gland infection as well,,,but that infection can lead to fistula's..the glands back up, the stuff has no where to go,so a fistula is produced, which is a tract/hole that will drain the gland stuff.
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*face palm* Okay, well here's praying she doesn't get that! Thanks Jakoda!
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my dog had 2 recurring anal gland infections in the same one. She was licking a lot and it would leak a little bit, the only thing that cleared the infection (0ral meds didn't work) was infusing it with an antibiotic cream.

I started her on Nupro supplement and it helped her poops become more firm and it never came back. I'd just make sure her poops are nice and hard
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my dog had 2 recurring anal gland infections in the same one. She was licking a lot and it would leak a little bit, the only thing that cleared the infection (0ral meds didn't work) was infusing it with an antibiotic cream.

I started her on Nupro supplement and it helped her poops become more firm and it never came back. I'd just make sure her poops are nice and hard
The Vet i was going to see was talking about that.. But then i ended up seeing another Vet who didn't mention it. So we never infused it with antibiotic.

Good point, i will try the pumpkin first and see if that helps her stools become harder. They are soft to hard, and sometimes will have liquid with her stools.
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