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wolfy dog 04-26-2014 05:07 PM

Nothing works for Pano
 
DDog has been suffering from Pano now for about two months. Had him on a Pano herbal blend form Natural Rearing and vit. C to start with. After one month; no result. Then added Metacam, no results after several weeks. Now on Metacam and Tramadol and herbal for four days now and again, no results. I am taking him off everything now and see how that goes. I hate all these chemicals in his, otherwise, super healthy body.
So what's left? Acupuncture? I can't imagine him lying still for that.
Need more ideas. he and I are both suffering from cabin fever.

Colie CVT 04-26-2014 06:13 PM

What are you feeding him? I was worried that my puppy was getting a touch of it with how much he was rapidly growing up without really gaining weight. I was adding in extra vitamin C and the only thing that one of the surgeons I work with recommended was getting him onto an adult food rather than a puppy food. Keeping him on large breed adult has seemed to do the trick. No more sudden yelping and keeping his front leg off of the ground.

Sadly the big factor in it is time. :/ Not something super well known about either at this point, but it definitely is obvious on radiographs. Did they take some to be sure it is pano rather than something else?

Whiteshepherds 04-26-2014 06:21 PM

Have you tried Rimadyl?

Barb

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Originally Posted by wolfy dog (Post 5436177)
DDog has been suffering from Pano now for about two months. Had him on a Pano herbal blend form Natural Rearing and vit. C to start with. After one month; no result. Then added Metacam, no results after several weeks. Now on Metacam and Tramadol and herbal for four days now and again, no results. I am taking him off everything now and see how that goes. I hate all these chemicals in his, otherwise, super healthy body.
So what's left? Acupuncture? I can't imagine him lying still for that.
Need more ideas. he and I are both suffering from cabin fever.


wolfy dog 04-26-2014 06:24 PM

Pano was diagnosed by Xrays. His elbows are fine. I feed him a large breed puppy food (last bag, switch to adult) in the morning and raw in the evening incl. Vit. C, salmon oil and vit E both a few times a week.

wolfy dog 04-26-2014 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Whiteshepherds (Post 5436345)
Have you tried Rimadyl?

Barb

Not yet, what is your experience with R.?

Colie CVT 04-26-2014 06:47 PM

Hopefully the large breed adult can help you out too. Though it may not be an immediate thing. The bone has to revert itself back to what it is supposed to be rather than what happens to it.

Personally if I am going to use an NSAID with my dogs, I stick with carprofen (Rimadyl, Vetprofen, Novox). It is twice a day and I usually underdose instead of properly dose it. Of all the other choices for the once daily (Deramaxx, Previcox, Meloxicam), Meloxicam is probably my favorite one. It seems to have less ill effects from what I have seen. Tramadol generally helps add in more pain control. I use it myself for when I have extremely nasty migraines or I can hardly stand from joint pain. But I mix it always with something else.

Acupuncture is nice for pain, though the effects on the pain really only last about 24 hrs. I used it with my former shepherd after her THR since she couldn't take NSAIDs. She was one tough old girl lol. Never complained, never quit.

trcy 04-26-2014 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Whiteshepherds (Post 5436345)
Have you tried Rimadyl?

Barb

I used Rimadyl when he had really bad days. I tried some herbal stuff, but nothing helped. Although he was not fat the breeder kept telling me he needed to have some weight off.

I don't think he lost weight, but he's still growing and looks skinner now. I'm very careful with his food proportions and snacks. He had Pano for a few months, but it seems to be gone now. He's 10 months old. (10 1/2 months)

Riley also had Pano. His was pretty much gone when he was 9 1/2 months.

wolfy dog 04-26-2014 07:28 PM

it will be sitting it out as before I guess.

boomer11 04-26-2014 07:45 PM

I thought you made a thread and said the pup was diagnosed with something else? I thought the limp wasnt from pano?

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Whiteshepherds 04-26-2014 07:45 PM

Usually 2 or 3 days on Rimadyl was all it took. Usually just 2 days but I used it that one extra day just to be sure. I think with any kind of inflammation/pain you want to catch it early.


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