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Old 03-26-2014, 07:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello.

I have a 5 month old German/Australian mix who was diagnosed with demodex about a week ago via a skin scraping. At that time she had it mostly on the lips, nose, and pretty badly under her chin. Her vulva was also very inflamed. She had lost all the fur on her chin when we visited the vet. She went from zero to pretty bad in what seemed like just 48 hours. The vet prescribed:
-Antibiotic to treat a secondary infection
-Benzoyl Peroxide shampoo to be bathed in every other day
-Topical revolution every 2 weeks
-AllerG-3 Omega supplement

We've been following the vet's directions to the tee. In just one week the mites appear to have spread rapidly. She now has thinning hair around her eyes, bits of missing hair on her legs and paws with bumps and sores. I've also started to find little scabs here and there on her belly and armpits.

I called the vet who recommend I apply the second round of revolution a week early and continue with the other medications and to call back if it hadn't improved by Monday. She also informed me that the only remaining option is Ivermectin or a costly dog dermatologist.

My concern is that the prescribed treatments are clearly doing nothing to improve the situation. The antibiotic did a great job and cleared up the infection right away but the mites are visibly getting much worse and progressing pretty quickly.

I am hesitant to agree to treat with Ivermectin since she is half Aussie. I am very concerned about the potential adverse effects it can potentially cause.

Can anyone recommend other treatment options? I am also interested in exploring holistic options if need be. I really don't want to risk the Ivermectin or pay for a "dog dermatologist" to tell me the same thing my vet has.

Has anyone tried apple cider vinegar? Borax/hydrogen peroxide baths? Other medications? I'm pretty desperate at thing point because she is loosing hair at an alarming rate and my heart is breaking for her. Help!
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Revolution does not treat demodex. It treats sarcoptic mange. My foster pup has demodex and we are doing Ivermectin. If you are worried, have the test done for the MDR1 mutation. The other treatment is Mitaban dips. Which us very hard on the dog.

Also, support the immune system with probiotics, and omega 3 and 6 fatty acids.

There are some good posts for homeopathic treatments on the board as well. Good luck.


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Old 03-26-2014, 08:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Selemectin is on the MDR1 list too and should not be given...

Boost the immune system. Bovine Colostrum

Get some raw organic cold pressed coconut oil and Neem oil. Melt the CO in a shot glass in a hot water bath (no microwave) and same with the Neem...mix a dropper full of neem to shot glass, mix and apply that.

Also feed a tsp./10lbs of body weight of the CO split am/pm
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i hate to ask the obvious but are you sure it is demodex and not sarcoptic?

i would get the mdr1 if it is demodex and start the ivermectin
it is a miracle drug for demodex and quite safe in the scheme of things
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Here are other natural alternatives.



Do not use both topical's at the same time.



Topical: *Demodectic/mites: a combination of Spike Lavender Essential Oil mixed with a carrier oil such as Sweet Almond Oil or Rose Hip Seed Oil can be used topically for mange treatment. 1 part Spike Lavender Essential Oil to 10 parts carrier oil.
Spike Lavender Essential Oil (quality EO's are key for medicinal purposes): Spike Lavender Essential Oil
Mixed with a Carrier Oil:Aromatherapy Carrier Oils, Cold Pressed and Organic OR Aromatherapy Carrier Oils, Cold Pressed and Organic
Apply to affected areas twice daily or alternate with lemon juice. This helps to kill the mites without any chemicals that could pull down the immune system.


Topical: *Nu stock: Ingredients – Sulfur,Mineral Oil,Pine Oil “Pierce's All Purpose Nu-Stock has been tested and used for over thirty years. It has proven to be effective for fast relief of many animal skin, hair and fur conditions. Nu-Stock also eliminates certain types of growths on animals..
Nu-Stock is effective on most skin disorders on animals. It has been used on several World Champion Walking and Quarter horses, as well as, World Champion coon dogs, bird dogs and beagles. Used for many skin related ailments in dogs. Application every three days promotes rapid healing of many skin disorders.”
· For Mange on dogs-also cuts & skinned places
· Treatment of ear mites
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Internal - applied to food: This anti fungal and anti viral herbal can help both mange and yeast: Glacier Peak Gold(TM) ~ Natural Anti-Fungal~Anti-Viral~ 1 oz A unique blend of antibiotic/anti-viral/anti-fungal herbs that can be used for bacterial infections, as well as internal parasites such as mites that cause mange. Also works well to balance candida albicans yeast overgrowth. Ingredients: Olive Leaf, Mustard Seed, Black Seed, Pau D'Arco, Cloves, Astragalus, Lobelia, Slippery Elm

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It's important to build her immune system during this time.

I discovered this link re massaging coconut oil into their skin, apparently the CO will suffocate any mites - Virgin Coconut Oil for Puppy Health |

Otherwise Advocate is for treatment of demodectic mange.
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i hate to ask the obvious but are you sure it is demodex and not sarcoptic?

i would get the mdr1 if it is demodex and start the ivermectin
it is a miracle drug for demodex and quite safe in the scheme of things
And I would do this with a dermatologist. Your dog - if it is demodex - is not just a couple of patches, it sounds like it's going full tilt.

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At that time she had it mostly on the lips, nose, and pretty badly under her chin. Her vulva was also very inflamed. She had lost all the fur on her chin when we visited the vet........She now has thinning hair around her eyes, bits of missing hair on her legs and paws with bumps and sores. I've also started to find little scabs here and there on her belly and armpits.
There is demodex, and 2 types of demodex: there is local and general. Generalized can get really bad.

Demodectic Mange on this link they have the link to the testing for the MDR1.

Sarcoptic mange is the other mange, generally itchy.

It is possible to have both.

That is why I would want to see a dermatologist.

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You can definitely support her immune system, but please don't think that will do it when it moves from localized to generalized. A beautiful GSD came to IMOM years ago being treated by a vet with things like oxygenated baths and immune boosters and was too sick to respond to treatment once she got it.

Plus - if it is demodex and Revolution is being used, you need to see another vet, and it may as well be an expert. In some states, vet teaching hospitals are less expensive.
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I have an aussie who is m/m for the mdr1 gene. She had sarcoptic at one point, since I wouldn't go the oral ivermectin route, the vet did two 'dips' a week apart.

The itching DOES get worse right after a treatment, the 'mites' are trying to move away from the med that kills them. We also used a topical/ 1/2 dosage but it wasn't revolution, it was one of the other topicals that I can't recall the name of.
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Boost the immune system. Bovine Colostrum
I've started feeding SeaVive which contains bovine colostrum and some other immune system boosters. Give it a try!! It's too early to say if it's working, but the one spot she had has cleared up, so far so good. She's been on it probably 3 weeks.

I think I got it from iherb.com. First time orders over a certain amount can get -$10 off, I think?

Good luck, it's really tricky to manage. It's all about boosting the dog's immune system so they can keep it in check.
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