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RLNOOK 03-25-2014 08:12 PM

Front right leg limp
 
Hello Everyone I am new to the site. Well, I have lurked for years and gotten a lot of info when needed. However I am feeling down and maybe I needed to sign up to vent and get some advice.

I have a 6.5 old German Shepherd which I paid good money(2500) for and was supposedly from a good breeder. The first 6 months as a puppy he had explosive diarrhea. I could not get this dog to poop hard for anything. After trying all different dog foods (yes we started of slow with everyone) thousands in vet bills, watching him stare at prescription Science diet looking at me and saying I am not eating this crap (I didnt blame him) finally we switched to raw. No problems there ever since but this dogs stomach could never handle anything but raw. First sign of health issues

Now he currently has double hip dysplasia. We have managed the hips for his whole life pretty well. We wanted to wait until right before it started effecting his quality of life and we are at that point right now. So he is getting his right hip done next month and then in 6-9 months we are going to get the other side done.

A couple of days ago I started noticing a limp and I assumed it was his right hip but in reality its his front right leg. I am obviously not a professional but I checked his pads, nails, extended his elbow, his foot, and shoulder while applying a little bit pressure but he does not react.

He uses this side of his body to get up because of his hips so I am wondering if they repeated abuse has caused this. Which also makes me feel guilty about not doing the surgery sooner. He seems fine. Wants to play but we are curbing his exercise because I already know what it is. Its def elbow dysplasia because that is the type of luck this poor animal has.

He hates the vet and will not let anyone xray him so anytime we do get xrays he has to be put under and its a $600 process. We have had to do this 3 times in the past few months so we already spent $1800 before even getting surgery. I am trying to put it off until next month when he gets his hip done.

Is that a bad idea?

Couple other questions

Do dogs with hip dysplasia also get ED as a result of taking weight off their hips?


Do you think with all of these health problems I should put it out there to the public about this breeder and what I am going through. I haven't spoken to him in years but he knew about the first hip and offered to replace the dog 9 months in to me owning him. Which of course no one does.


Thanks for listening. I love my boy and would do anything for him.

my boy diesel 03-25-2014 08:19 PM

use google to learn about elbow dysplasia there is a wealth of info out there

Do dogs with hip dysplasia also get ED as a result of taking weight off their hips?

i cant say if this is true or no
but elbow dysplasia is a whole nother ball of wax from hd

you need to speak to your vet or preferably an ortho vet before the hd surgery because if the dog has ed you should not be doing the hip surgery

i have to ask where you live that x rays are going to be $600??

TigervTeMar 03-25-2014 08:21 PM

I think he meant the dog has to be sedated before x-rays and the sedation process costs $600 a pop.

my boy diesel 03-25-2014 08:22 PM

still
i understand that but around here sedation plus x rays is never more than 150 - 200

RLNOOK 03-25-2014 08:40 PM

I live in NYC.

The Hip surgery is 6500 a hip and thats from the "best" Dr in this area doing it.


How would Ed effect getting his hip surgery? I have extensively read about ED the past couple of days but the questions I asked were not answered in what I read so I figured I could get some good input from people on his board

RLNOOK 03-25-2014 09:12 PM

I just called the hospital doing his surgery since they are 24 hour and they are telling me one has nothing to do with the other. Could you link me to some information that supports your post?

my boy diesel 03-25-2014 09:27 PM

they dont have anything to do with one another but a dog supports 60% of its weight on the front
when your dog that possibly has ed due to poor breeding suddenly has to support even more weight on its front you will see increased problems with the elbows

that is if i suspected my dog had ed i would not waste my time on a hip surgery
the elbows are more important and that is why dogs with a back leg amputated can run like the wind and a dog that has a foreleg amputated must hop around to get around

i have no idea what you want me to post because i never said they are related other than both can be a result of poor breeding practices

you need to tell your ortho you believe your dog may have ed

what i am trying to say is the hip surgery wont cause ed in and of itself

but if the dog already has ed it is going to make recovery that much more worse for the dog
but the dog either has some ed or not

it could be too that the elbows are going out since the dog is so painful in the back he is putting that much more weight on the front but again he would already have poor joints and the hip being bad is magnifying it

RLNOOK 03-25-2014 11:34 PM

Thanks for your input but you have contradicted yourself about 5 times in your posts. You are telling me google is a wealth of knowledge yet I ask you to support your claim and you can't.

I asked three questions you answered one, made a claim about another that you cant support and then made a comment about the price I get stuck paying. I am here for support and answers none of which you have provided and I get a condescending back handed tone in some of your comments.

So I would appreciate it if you let someone who knows what they are talking about answer some of my concerns. Thanks

gsdsar 03-25-2014 11:46 PM

No expert here,

1. I would not wait to get X-rays done on the elbows. If it is in fact ED it could change which surgery you plan on doing with your dog.

2. ED is not caused by HD. But the additional weight placed on the front, to compensate for a weak back end, could cause the early development of arthritis and muscle strain. However I more seen shoulder problems, not elbows.




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my boy diesel 03-25-2014 11:51 PM

The Hip surgery is 6500 a hip and thats from the "best" Dr in this area doing it.

i am confused as to why if you have the best guy doing it why arent you asking him??

I already know what it is. Its def elbow dysplasia because that is the type of luck this poor animal has.
then why are you asking us if you are certain he has it :confused:

Do dogs with hip dysplasia also get ED as a result of taking weight off their hips?
no
if a dog has it he or she has it, period
it isnt "caused by dysplasia"
a dog can have one or the other or both concurrently

Do you think with all of these health problems I should put it out there to the public about this breeder and what I am going through.

you cannot breeder bash on here
facebook or your blog sure have at it

So I would appreciate it if you let someone who knows what they are talking about answer some of my concerns. Thanks

hahah that is funny
anyone who wants to post can post, i am not stopping them!
but nobody else was posting and i do happen know something about both conditions
but whichever :crazy:
hope an ortho expert comes along soon :crazy:


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