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Old 03-02-2014, 07:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have an almost 3 yr old male gsd. We have been having some issues with him the last 12-14 months.

He starting peeing in the house first-right in front of us. Took him to vet, said he had crystals in urine, put him on meds, and special food. Then about 2-3 months later, same thing. Put him on more meds. Since that time, he has lost weight, he had yellow very soft almost runny poop, vomiting periodically -where his food would not be digested 12 hours after eating. He had months of urine tests, blood tests, xrays, body checks. I also know he had EPI test done in August 2013. Still no luck. Still not gaining weight-sometimes still peeing in house.

Around Sept, we started seeing a holistic vet. Who had us change him to Fromm kibble. put him on enzymes, probiotics, and clay. Seemed to be ok until beginning of Jan 2014. He then got really sick. Black tar diarrhea and projectile vomiting. Took him to ER, they gave him antibiotics, and said he needed to be on rice/ground meat diet. So we did that for about 2 weeks-he lost a great amount of weight-and then slowly starting putting him on Stella and Chewy's frozen raw. He is currently on 4 frozen patty's a day-enzymes, and probiotics. He has gained all the weight that he lost-but is still only 77lbs-when for his height and lenght, he should be at least 85-90lbs. This last 7 days, he only gained 1lb, when the week before he gained 6lbs. He is starting to frequently pee more in the house, but today, he was just laying on my bed, got up, and there was a puddle. Sometimes when he pees by the back door, he does not lift his leg.

On another note-since he has started the Stella and Chewy's-he has also started to get very aggressive- door charging and scary. Not letting people in the back of our house, actually put his mouth around my friends sons arm while walking in my dining room. When he is on my bed, if he is rubbed or touched-he will growl. Doesn't matter who it is..

I am at a lost as to what is going on. Medically we are so frustrated. Our vet bills in 2013 totaled more that $6000.00-and I feel we have not found out what is wrong-however the 4 different vets we have seen, are pretty much out of ideas. He looks soooooo disgustinly thin. Can't seem to put weight on, and now this aggressive behavior.

We are supposed to start with a behaviorist in less than 2 weeks- but they are worried if its a health issue, it needs to be addressed first. But, if the vets-mind you 4 different vet clinics-can't diagnose something-then could it all be behavior?? Anyone's advice will be so welcome.. Thank you Kim
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Is he on any HW/Flea/Tick prevention?
If yes. What?
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Just heartguard for right now. Flea and tick usually doesn't start until about May...
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I have no suggestions.. just more questions to add to your list .

The vet found crystals in the urine, did they check for bladder stones? When they put him on meds for the crystals(?) did they do a sterile culture and determined which antibiotic was the correct one?

I think (hope someone confirms this) black tar diarrhea indicates blood in the stool?

As for his weight; 77 lbs may really be his good weight. I know with mine, going by his height and length you would think he would be quite a few lbs more - he consistently stays at 70 lbs now.
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Black tar stool, is an indication of blood high in the GI tract. Not in the lower intestine, but digested or large intestinal bleeding. I would have him checked for an ulcer.

His aggression could easily be linked to feeling bad. I would ask for a referral to an internal medicine specialist o a vet school. I would get a urine culture and an ultrasound.

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They crystals they said they found the first time ended up being a guess, we found out later. Not a fact-proven by the health records when sent to the next 3 vet clinics. He has had ultrasounds on his pancreas, bladder, uretha, and i don't recall the others-but also xrays on the same areas.
The black tar they believe was caused by his projectile vomiting causing and ulcer in his throat -the was aggravated by continuous vomiting. and then bled.
I do not believe the testing happened as you mentioned-i know he has been on a few antibiotics.. and for extensive periods of time...
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oh, and as far as his weight-he is too thin, you can see every single rib and his bones. Its embarrassing-I know it shouldnt be-but still totally is.. people make comments about him all the time...
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Someone suggested a vet school...It would be a drive for you, but I would recommend Michigan State University Veterinary School. Perhaps there's something closer to you, but I really would highly recommend MSU in East Lansing, MI.
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God, you poor thing. And your poor dog. I hope things work out for you.
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Where about are you in Chicago?
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