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Old 01-07-2014, 10:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I know there's already lot's of threads out there on this but none of the suggestions I've read have helped yet.

Our GSD has been constantly itching for over a year, maybe longer now. Our vet just told us to give him Benedryl which seemed to help occasionally but didn't help much either.

We've tried adding extra fish oil to his Acana Pacifica and also giving him Vitamin C and neither really seemed to help much.

We haven't seen any fleas on him either.

Could it be a food allergy that he's developed? That's the only other thing I could think of?
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Old 01-07-2014, 03:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Do you have your GSD on a flea and tick preventative? Just because you have not seen any, does not mean that the dog does not have any. Sometimes, in a very sensitive dog, it only takes one bite to start a horrid reaction that just perpetuates itself with more scratching and itching.

My senior male GSD (rescued from a life on a chain) was very itchy after I pulled him as a foster and then adopted him. His allergies, however, were environmental rather than food-based. My vet put him on Hydroxyzine (a prescription antihistamine) and he stopped scratching within hours), We did a very short course of Prednisone (steroid) to stop the itching and then just continued with the antihistamine. It has worked wonders for him.
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Old 01-07-2014, 04:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't mess around with itching anymore. I get them tested by a specialist. You can do skin tests at a specialist or a blood test (kit) at your regular vet. It'll seem expensive, until you add up all the trips you're going to make and meds you're going to try without knowing what is triggering the problem.

Vets will treat with Benedryl and many will eventually move up to steroids. The steroids will typically help, but long term they will do liver damage and shorten your dogs life significantly.

Nothing wrong with trying new foods, new baths, new supplements, but I'd get the tests done.
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Old 01-09-2014, 04:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How do I find a veterinarian specialist who can do a skin test? Do I just call different vets in my area and ask if they can do a skin test?

Thanks!
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Old 01-09-2014, 04:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My dog also have allergy issues but it seems environmental. We found that after we clean our carpet the allergy subsides and then comes back gradually. We give him zyrtec which seems to help a lot.
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Old 01-09-2014, 05:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi Good Snow!
Checking for food sensitivities is the best place to start.
Dr. Jean Dodds (Researcher) developed and patened a test called NutriScan. You order the kit, swab some of your dogs saliva per directions and send it back to HemoPet for analysis.....pretty easy and cheaper than allergy testing from a specialist! Many dogs have been helped by this testing! This test will show you what ingredients that your dog is highly sensitive to so that you can find a different food with correct ingredients. BTW....what EXACTLY are you feeding? Food, Treats, Table food? Please list the brand names.

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Here are some specifics of the test:
NutriScan
This test measures antibodies to certain foods in dog saliva. High antibody levels indicate that the dog has a food sensitivity and intolerance to that food or foods. Food intolerance or sensitivity is actually quite common whereas food allergy is rare. In fact, food intolerance is the third most common sensitivity condition in dogs and often can be easily remedied with a change in diet.Dr. Jean Dodds, NutriScan tests for the twenty most commonly ingested foods by dogs to provide you with specific results as to your dog's food intolerances or sensitivities. Since it is a salivary test, you have the convenience to complete the test at home or at your veterinarian’s office. Best of all, you can have the results in approximately two weeks to help you put your dog on the right diet.
Remember, NutriScan is novel and patented and is not testing for food allergies, but rather tests for food sensitivities and intolerance. These are different body immune responses. Food allergy is a more immediate reaction mediated by production of IgE and IgG antibodies. Food sensitivity and intolerance, by contrast, measures a more delayed body response to offending foods by measuring production of IgA and IgM antibodies primarily in mucosal secretions from the bowel.”


Panel1: Beef, Corn, Wheat, Soy, Cow’s Milk, Lamb, Venison/Deer, Chicken, Turkey, White Fish.
Panel 2: Chicken Eggs, Barley, Millet, Oatmeal, Salmon, Rabbit, Rice, Quinoa, Potatoes, Peanuts/Peanut Butter.

$130 for one panel (10 antigens), $250 for two panels (20 antigens). ……I’d get both.


Vet Allergy test cost about $500 for 20 antigens. Check this page for test differences: http://nutriscan.org/the-nutriscan-difference/nutriscan-vs-skin-patchskin-prick-testing.html


Q. How does this test differ from other food “allergy” tests on serum or feces ?
A. Food allergy tests measure antibodies to IgG and IgE in serum or feces. These are typically more acute allergic reactions to foods, whereas NutriScan measures IgA and IgM antibodies on the bowel’s mucosal surface, and thus more directly correlates to symptoms of bowel (GI tract) disease. http://nutriscan.org/the-nutriscan-difference/faqs.html

“NutriScan is a patented novel saliva test for canine food sensitivity and intolerance.” http://hemopet.org/

“This test measures antibodies to certain foods in dog saliva. High antibody levels indicate that the dog has a food sensitivity and intolerance to that food or foods.”

“Food intolerance or sensitivity is actually quite common whereas food allergy is rare. In fact, food intolerance is the third most common sensitivity condition in dogs and often can be easily remedied with a change in diet. For years, though, the difficulty lay in figuring out what foods were problematic – until now. Nutri-Scan is novel and patented and is not testing for food allergies, but rather tests for food sensitivities and intolerance. These are different body immune responses. Food allergy is a more immediate reaction mediated by production of IgE and IgG antibodies. Food sensitivity and intolerance, by contrast, measures a more delayed body response to offending foods by measuring production of IgA and IgM antibodies primarily in mucosal secretions from the bowel.”
http://www.hemopet.org/nutriscan.html

“In contrast to food allergies, food sensitivity and intolerance is more common and can be a long term reaction.” http://nutriscan.org/the-nutriscan-difference.html

For the first time in veterinary history, pets can be diagnosed and treated for food sensitivities on an individual basis. We consider the dog’s age, breed, and size in all of our diagnostic technology. Not all dogs are metabolically and genetically alike and our technology provides for individualized care.” http://nutriscan.org/images/stories/Press_Release_Nutrigenomics.pdf

Nutri-Scan vs Food Elimination Trials: http://nutriscan.org/the-nutriscan-difference/nutriscan-vs-food-elimination-trials.html
Advantages: http://nutriscan.org/images/stories/NutriScan_ADVANTAGE.pdf
Site showing results from testing: http://fidoseofreality.com/does-the-nutriscan-kit-to-solve-dog-food-allergies-work/

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How do I find a veterinarian specialist who can do a skin test? Do I just call different vets in my area and ask if they can do a skin test?

Thanks!

I would get it done at a dermatologist, you can find one here: https://www.acvd.org/locator/locator.asp
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