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Old 12-18-2013, 08:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hello all, i have a 14 month old gsd with very bad skin problems. we have done a enviromental allergy test on her(allergic to 2 types of grass, dust mites, and mold that grows on grass/trees). i have had her checked out by 3 vets, all of which cannot diagnose her correctly. i have tried 5 different types of food and currently she is on royal canin hp prescription food. she constantly is scratching and chewing her upper thigh area on both sides of her rear end(which leads to an infection 99% of the time). the spots start out looking like a hotspot, the hair all falls out then forms small red bumps that eventually become almost purple in color. after about a week she starts to smell very yeasty. i have also tried medicated shampoos and prescription shampoo. she is a wonderful dog and i would love to make her life a little more comfortable for her. i have attached a photo. it is not as bad as it has been in the past in the pic because we have her on Hydroxyzine and antibiotics for the infection, but it has come back. any thoughts on what this might be?
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So sorry you are dealing with this, too.
This was a lifesaver for us:
NutriScan Food Sensitivity and Intolerance Test for Cats and Dogs

Also check for fleas. If your dog has a flea allergy, even one flea can cause a major flareup.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i have read a grain free diet may help. wish i had read that when going through this with my gsd.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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the medicated shampoo was to treat what?
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Old 12-19-2013, 11:03 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Not sure what foods you have tried but that Royal Canine is not food. No idea what this is. If its helping great, I am guessing it is not since your posting. If you post what foods you have tried that can help people here.

Brewers rice, hydrolyzed soy protein, chicken fat, natural flavors, dried beetpulp, monocalcium phosphate, vegetable oil, sodium silico aluminate, calciumcarbonate, fish oil, fructooligosaccharides, potassium chloride, salt, taurine, cholinechloride, vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), inositol,niacin supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), D-calciumpantothenate, biotin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin supplement(vitamin B2), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin A acetate, folic acid,vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement], L-tyrosine, L-lysine, marigoldextract (Tagetes erecta L.), trace minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, ferroussulfate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganousoxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite], rosemary extract, preserved with naturalmixed tocopherols and citric acid
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Oh skin issues are a nightmare!

I know that the Oatmeal shampoos rather then medicated ones seem to soothe my dogs skin. Then I tend to smoosh Neosporin all over the area to help clear up the infection.

Problem is if it's more of a hotspot type itching you may more want to dry the area out and I've heard that Gold Bond Powder works well for that.

And I'd definitely keep playing with the diets. I know that the fish/potato mixes work well for some dogs.... Others do better on grain free...... so we have to be investigators for our dogs and try out different things.
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hello all, i have a 14 month old gsd with very bad skin problems. we have done a enviromental allergy test on her(allergic to 2 types of grass, dust mites, and mold that grows on grass/trees). i have had her checked out by 3 vets, all of which cannot diagnose her correctly. i have tried 5 different types of food and currently she is on royal canin hp prescription food. she constantly is scratching and chewing her upper thigh area on both sides of her rear end(which leads to an infection 99% of the time). the spots start out looking like a hotspot, the hair all falls out then forms small red bumps that eventually become almost purple in color. after about a week she starts to smell very yeasty. i have also tried medicated shampoos and prescription shampoo. she is a wonderful dog and i would love to make her life a little more comfortable for her. i have attached a photo. it is not as bad as it has been in the past in the pic because we have her on Hydroxyzine and antibiotics for the infection, but it has come back. any thoughts on what this might be?
We had a couple of breakouts like this with our puppy( the redness bumps turning purple licking infection etc)we switched him to natural Balance limited ingredient diet. I rubbed the area with coconut oil mixed with neem powder. This helped a lot. I found he was reacting to cheese. The second time he got this again when he had a piece of pizza. So it might be grain related too. Since its winter we rub some coconut oil into his skin every few days. It helps with his itching. I also give him some probiotic powder sprinkled in his kibble.


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Old 12-19-2013, 11:34 AM   #8 (permalink)
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It's a real guessing game! I agree that you have to try to find the food that works the best, and then hope for the best, lol. I don't know why, but switching my guy from Fromms LBP to Orijen 6 fish made him much less symptomatic when he went through his seasonal allergies this fall. I guess there's a chance that he outgrew it (he just turned 2yrs.) or that the raw bee pollen helped. Who knows, but this year he had hot spots instead of the infections he got last year. I had a medicated cream from the vet and then I used vetricyn hot spot spray on him, and it cleared him up. The seasons changed too, which probably helped. Good luck, I hope you can find the right combination to help your girl.
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We have tried blue buffalo lamb and oatmeal, blue buffalo chicken and rice, blue buffalo basics salmon and potato,royal canin hp hydrolyzed protien, and now taste of the wild smoked salmon which she seems to love(but is still breaking out) We are taking her in to the vet tomorrow for a check up and to show them the spots. I'm just afraid that they are going To try to get me to pay for the allergy serum shots which I can't afford at te moment. I will indeed try coconut oil. I have heard great things about it so it must work well. Also she is on trifexis not sure if this May be a side affect of that? Thanks for all the input!

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You need a limited ingredient, grain free, novel protein diet before you can begin working with the other potentials...

Something like one of these:

Nature's Variety Instinct: Limited Ingredient Diet: Rabbit Meal Formula for dogs | Nature's Variety
Nature's Variety Instinct: Limited Ingredient Diet: Lamb Meal Formula for dogs | Nature's Variety
Tundra | Orijen

Once your dog is on a grain free, limited ingredient diet you should start addressing potential environmental allergies, allergies to treats, allergies to household products, sensitivities to cleaners, immune system disorders, etc etc.
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