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Old 12-17-2013, 10:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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First question:
Has anyone tried Acupuncture or and Gold beads or know someone who has? What was the outcome?
I met with a third Vet today, and he has been a Vet for a long time doing Acupuncture and Gold Beads. And he seems to think this is the best option for Zelda's HD. I defiantly respect his opinion. (he is also my boss) He said it would be best if we did acupuncture to see if it helps her, and if it does than we should do Gold Beads. This sounds like something i can do financially.. We talked about FHO, since he can do this too.. but he said that should be a last resort.
He also really seemed to push Zelda on carprophen long term- but i am looking into Canine pain Plus as a suggestion from someone on here. (thanks!)
I defiantly want to go natural before anything else, as prescription meds always put a flag up for me because of my own personal experiences.

Second Question:
Ester C.. My vet said to put her on some vitamin C.. is ester C as good as a normal vitamin C supplement or better? I have seen people suggest it, but my question is what brand to get and how many mg to give?

Found these two:

Amazon.com: Wholistic Pet Ester C 3oz: Pet Supplies Amazon.com: Wholistic Pet Ester C 3oz: Pet Supplies
American Health Ester-CŪ Powder with Citrus Bioflavonoids -- 8 oz - Vitacost

(She is already on cosequin DS and fishoil)
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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you have seen the current results of the study in humans about vitamins haven't you?
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The study done by big Pharma who used the synthetic vitamins and minerals they produce?

or the study on vitamins sourced from whole foods in supplement form/powders
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Old 12-18-2013, 12:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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What is your dog's condition and why does it need Vit C? Dogs make their own vitamin C, unlike humans. If you supplement, you may risk that your dog's system does not produce it on it's own.

What is gold beads other than jewelry?

I would think the Rimadyl is OK for short term, a few weeks, but I'm with you, I would not want to use it long term.

Also I think you meant to use the word, "definitely" instead of defiantly.

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The study done by big Pharma who used the synthetic vitamins and minerals they produce?

or the study on vitamins sourced from whole foods in supplement form/powders
I'd imagine this is the study she's talking about.

Vitamins Lack Clear Health Benefits, May Pose Risks - Forbes
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Old 12-18-2013, 01:08 AM   #6 (permalink)
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OK - I found gold beads, here's a study of them:

Two years follow-up study of the pain-relieving effect of gold bead implantation in dogs with hip-joint arthritis
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you have seen the current results of the study in humans about vitamins haven't you?
Nope I have not.

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I'd imagine this is the study she's talking about.

Vitamins Lack Clear Health Benefits, May Pose Risks - Forbes
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What is your dog's condition and why does it need Vit C? Dogs make their own vitamin C, unlike humans. If you supplement, you may risk that your dog's system does not produce it on it's own.

What is gold beads other than jewelry?

I would think the Rimadyl is OK for short term, a few weeks, but I'm with you, I would not want to use it long term.

Also I think you meant to use the word, "definitely" instead of defiantly.
She has HD. Do you know what the risk is? There must be a safe dose to use that will benefit, as i've seen a handful of people on here and outside use vitamin C or ester C.

Spelling is not my forte'

Is there anyone who has heard of the outcome of Gold Beads or have a dog who had it done?

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I know I am not answering your question again, but my sister has had rheumatoid arthritis for 35 years. When she was first diagnosed, she was given gold injections for a couple years, gold is considered an anti-inflammatory. She found the gold to be not effective, and stopped that treatment.

What helped my sister a lot was changing her diet and removing things from it that she felt gave her inflammation - processed foods, wheat and diary. She used to go for reflexology. I had a neighbor who took her dog for acupuncture and felt it helped her dog. My sister also either ate a lot of salmon or took products with fish oils.
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In an article published on the Colorado State website, the author states that gold bead therapy offers no benefits over acupuncture and poses substantial potential for injury:

http://csuvets.colostate.edu/pain/Ar...adImplants.pdf
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The study done by big Pharma who used the synthetic vitamins and minerals they produce?

or the study on vitamins sourced from whole foods in supplement form/powders
the one done at john hopkins.
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