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Old 12-12-2013, 08:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My german shepherd puppy (5 months old - 48 pounds) has pano and I just noticed that his pasterns on the left leg are down. This left leg where he has been limping now appears to be slightly bent outward.

I took him to my vet and to a radiologist - this bones, elbows and hips are fine. The x-rays were all good. The limping is caused by pano. They (the vet, the importer) told me to crate the puppy, limit exercise and I am giving him herbal painkillers.

His food/calories are cut by 1/3. He is on three cups of kibble - Blue Mountain Large Breed. Originally he was 1/2 raw and 1/2 kibble.

I am giving him NuVet supplements.

The dog is Cezch import - german showlines. He is pink papered.

What else do I need to do?

Can his pasterns ever get back to normal ?

What dog food should I give him ? I have tired Nutro and Blue to-date.

His weight increase around 3 pounds a week - I have been keeping an accurate log of weekly weigh ins.

The importer does not appear too worried - he says it is normal and the puppy will outgrow the pano and the pasterns will straighten. He also said I can go see his vet if needed.

My vet is very holistic and did not prescribe any commercial painkillers.

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Old 12-12-2013, 10:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Great information if you go to ---> Correcting down pasterns?

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Old 12-12-2013, 01:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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OP, my pup is a pano pup with downed pasterns. I contacted Carmen, a member on this board. She was very helpful but I'll tell you what I know. You can still limit exercise for your pup with slow steady LEASHED walks but no running, jumping, crazy puppy antics allowed. Crating for long periods of time can actually make downed pasterns worse. And since when you obviously cant supervise your pup, he should be crated. When you can supervise, tether your pup to you with something fun to chew on to help keep him from moving around too much.

Definitely check out the thread Maggie linked. You'll find useful information in there for sure. If you want, I can let you know what I've used to help. Just PM me and let me know!

My pup is now 9 months old, hasn't had an episode of Pano flairing up in a couple weeks and he's no longer down on his pasterns.
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Marnina Zacharias (Homeotoxicologist): Panosteitis is another problem that many of us face who breed fast growing, larger puppies. I have personally had several Basset puppies afflicted with Pano and I am happy to report that through breeder networking, has come to light a specific herbal blend formulated for this problem. This blend of nine organic herbs really works! On average we see a total disappearance of symptoms within a week or two. No crate rest is necessary. The supplement can then be used until the threat of Pano is gone.
PANOSTEITIS HERBAL FORMULA

An amazing organic herbal tincture that gives quick relief for puppies that suffer from this painful and debilitating disease (also known as long bone.) Breeders have reported great success stories with this formula and it is safe and easy on the system compared to anti-inflammatories. Contains the following certified organic herbs; Boneset; Blue Vervain; Comfrey; Fenugreek; Goldenseal; Nettle; Mullein; Rose Hip; and Sarsaparilla.
Dosage:
  • under 50 lb. Approximately 30 drops twice daily
  • over 50 lb.- Approximately 40 to 80 drops twice daily
If the remedy is stopped too soon, symptoms may reappear. It is recommended to continue daily use until all threat of Pano has gone. If dosages above give some improvement, but not complete relief, increase dosage until relieved.
4 oz. .... $ 48.00
8 oz. .... $ 96.00


There are other homeopathic's/natural items if you are interested.


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A 10# box is approx. $70 but RE-Hydrates to about 35 pounds of food.

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Old 12-12-2013, 03:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I can't figure out why his left leg is bent outward.

The importer says its just growing spurt and will eventually set straight.

Vet thinks its tied to pano and may or may not straighten out.

I just don't want the pup in pain.
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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as your vet mentioned Carpal Subluxation?
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OP, can you take a picture of the leg in question and a picture of the leg in question with the other leg so we can see?
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Its the left paw/leg - it is bent outward
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Pano is gone.

Gave Cash some herbal painkillers, cut calories by 1/3 and cut exercise - he only gets to play by himself in the yard on grass.

How do I get his pasterns and leg paw to correct?

I have in the last few weeks

switched his dry food from Blue Wilderness Large Breed puppy to Nature Domain Salmon - costco store brand that is same as Taste of the Wild. He now is eating 4 cups a day. He loves the new food.

No long eating any raw

I am giving him a good serving of bone broth with both meals - bone broth is made per Carmen's recipe from the link.

Also feeding him some berries as snacks for vitamin C

I have him on a GNC supplement for joints so be can get his MSM.

Trying to reduce his weekly growth from 3 pounds a week to 2 pounds as per my vet.

What else should I be doing? He weights 51-52 pounds and is 22 weeks old
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Did you go to the link suggested above about downed pasterns?
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