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Old 10-07-2013, 10:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Help Needed: Osteochondritis Dissecans (OCD)?

Hi,

I've a 11 months working line GSD (male by the way). FYI, I just brought him back from a breeder one month ago.

During the 1st week after I brought him back, I notice he is not playful / as other dogs and I thought this could be his temparement so and I'm okay with it.

Later, I realise that after a short jog / walk (<300m), he started to limp on his left leg. Upon further examination, I notice this left pastern is a bit unusual (i mean the angulation, not to the extent of flat pastern or completely down).

So, I thought it is Carpal subluxation Syndrome (CSS) but to confirm it, i brought him to the vet for x-ray.

Here are the x-rays result. Based on the vet's advice, there seem like a formation of bad cartilage near his wrist joint. 2 options available for treament.
1. Casting for 2 months and see whether the affected area can heal. But chances are very slim given cartilage is unable to self-healing;
2. Surgery which involve an implant of metal object (a pin) to force the joint together, plus remove those bad cartilage.

I'm sure whether which option is the best for him, or it is OCD. Hope expert and experienced GSD owners can throw in some suggestions / comments for my reference.

Cheers, and thanks in advance.
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I am sorry about your gsd. What I suggest you do is to get a second opinion and take the xrays with you.
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Consulted another vet yesterday for second opinion. I'm really confuse now as the vet told me another story....
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This is what can happen. So, if you are still confused and have doubts about both opinions, you may want to consider going for a third.
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Hi I have an 8 month male GSD. He randomly started limping about a week ago on his front paw. I did some research and thought it could be Pano, however we took him to the vet to make sure. The vet pinched his shoulder and says that it is most likely OCD because he was in pain here and not so much the elbow (associated with Pano he said). He told us that he will most likely need surgery and referred us to a specialist. I have no objections to taking him in to get x rays by the specialist and the surgery if it is needed but I am now in doubt of the real cause.

The vet prescribed Metacam and I have given him 2 doses over 2 days. Days 3 and 4 he did not have any metacam but is walking 90% better. His limp was very bad before the metacam and now it is barely noticeable. Is this normal?

Also, if anyone has taken their dog for surgery for OCD i would love to know their experiences. ie. post-op recovery, follow-up, along with the cost of xrays+surgery

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trauma , impact compression damaging growth plates may have been the cause --- important not to overdo it with young dogs

notify the person you bought the dog from .

Surgery best option . Probably will require a break higher up in the forelimb with rod and pins inserted to provide matrix for bone growth and lengthening so that the seal like out turning foot can straighten out and bear weight better . Takes a long time. Casting , recovery period , careful conservative exercise for a long period after, and eventually surgery again to remove the rod and pins.

personal experience , one daring-do male about 4 months who had a penchant for jumping and heights decided on his own to run up an A frame and take a flying leap landing with all his weight on one forelimb. Had 9 x rays done , spine, neck, shoulder, elbows, hips, knees and each forelimb - pastern . Surgery . Cast . Recovery .

Diet included nutritionally essential antioxidants . Glucosamine. Fish oil for the EPA portion which is cartilage protective. Complex food sourced Vitamin C , E , and alpha lipoic acid.

You would never know the dog had a problem by his actions and ease of movement - right through to old age without arthritic changes. You have to catch it soon to prevent this !
Had full working career as a maximum prisons dog --

Cartilage CAN be repaired . So much new science it is hard to keep up with it all . Much to borrow from human health which includes hyaluronic acid injections at site, and stem cell research -- and nutraceuticals .

Important to have that discussion with the person you bought the dog from especially if you bought the dog for work or competition. Training delayed and long period for recovery. Since trauma possible cause I suspect that some discomfort would have been noticeable .


M1508 if you have concerns you have to do an x ray view --- not pinching a shoulder or elbow
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MSM relieves pain and swelling -- provides organic sulfur which supports healthy ligaments and tendons .

Glucosamine sulphate provides cushioning synovial fluid which prevents bone on bone contact and provides nutrients for cartilage integrity and production of healthy cartilage cells.

Chondroitin accelerates healing and helps nourish cartilage .

important to keep hydration .

this combination often mentioned in threads with downed pasterns --
Bone broth will provide a good source of chondroitin as do chicken necks and wings, chicken skins --
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